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WrestleMania 41 Triumph, Betrayal, and Lackluster Finishes

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Q and Dion break down the hits and misses of WrestleMania 40, comparing the event to last year and analyzing how it sets up WWE's future storylines.

• Q dominated the prediction contest, winning with a score of 40-29
• Jay Uso defeating Gunther felt rushed with the quick submission finish
• Women's matches delivered with Jade vs Naomi and the standout triple threat with Io winning
• Paul Heyman's double-cross of both CM Punk and Roman Reigns created the weekend's biggest shock
• Night two's main event with John Cena winning his 17th title felt lackluster and poorly executed
• Travis Scott's involvement and The Rock's absence disappointed many fans
• Dominik Mysterio captured the Intercontinental title and received surprising crowd support
• The women's tag team titles changed hands twice in 24 hours, showing inconsistent booking
• Joe Hendry's surprise appearance from TNA created a memorable WrestleMania moment
• Raw revealed Bron Breaker joining Seth Rollins and Paul Heyman's alliance

Share your thoughts on WrestleMania 41 in the comments and let us know which moment you thought was the best of the weekend!


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Speaker 1:

Welcome, welcome, welcome back to another episode of. From my Perspective, we're coming to you a little bit early this week because we got to talk about that WrestleMania show, night one and night two. We got to give you our review Before we get into it. Q how you doing.

Speaker 2:

I want to do what it is. It's your boy, mr Bad Guy. I can't say your name. I'm on the spot, I'm good. I'm good. I can't want to do what it is. It's your boy, mr Bad Guy. I can't say your name. I'm going to surprise. I might not put you tomorrow, all right bro, I'm good.

Speaker 1:

I'm good, I can't complain. I can't complain at all. Yeah, I might as well go ahead and get this out, lay it on out there. I like to be honest with you guys. Night one, me and Q, we was doing our thing and it ended 19-19. So I was feeling good for night two, and then Q proceeded to put belt to ass on me. He won night two by a score of 21-10 to win total WrestleMania 40-29. So Q is your prediction champion for the WrestleMania show. So congratulations, q. I'm hating a little bit. I'm being a little sarcastic because I'm hating a little bit, but you didn't have to do me like that on night two. It was crazy.

Speaker 2:

You know what? To be honest with you, it's really your fault.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You didn't believe in EO. That's what it boiled down to. You didn't believe in EO. You let what I see. They ain't going to let that record continue because they don't want it to become a thing. That's all it was. That's what it boiled down to. Io won because they didn't want that record for Bianca to become a thing. So move. Here we are.

Speaker 1:

That was rough. We'll get to that one, but let's go ahead and start out with night one. Night one, but before we get to it, what was your thoughts on WrestleMania as a whole and night one and night two?

Speaker 2:

Night one to me was mad. It was okay but it wasn't bad. Let me start that first. It was not bad. It was okay but it wasn't bad. Let me start that first. It was not bad. It was good but it wasn't great. The main event was great. We'll get to that. Night two to me everything else, for me personally, the early matches felt great. The mid-court matches and all of that felt great. Get to the main event it was lackluster.

Speaker 1:

So that's where I'm at Lackluster, to say the least. I mean I agree I gotta give a shout-out to all. There was a lot of multi-person matches on this card. They all delivered all the multi-person matches and even let's give a shout-out the stand and deliver main event over femi trick williams and javon evans. They maybe had the match of the weekend, I mean eo ria bianca they had something to say about that, but they did that thing and stand and deliver. But I agree with you.

Speaker 1:

One of my first thoughts is like when I when the, when john cena finally won, my thought was this thing, I don't know, it just seems so lackluster. And I was like this is definitely wasn't better than last year's. And then it hit me this felt like last year's WrestleMania, felt like it was the conclusion. It was you was closing the book on stuff. This year it seems like so much was like this is the setup to something else. This was just the beginning of something else. It didn't seem like a conclusion.

Speaker 1:

So that's why this one felt a little off for me, because it just felt like everything was just the beginning of something and not the end. Nothing concluded. I felt like I'm trying to think of one few. We met the Jay Gunther. That was probably the one that was a concluder. Everything else was. But yeah, it seems like the only feud that felt like it was the conclusion was the Jay Gunther feud. Every other feud felt like it was just the beginning or it was just in the middle phase of the feud. So that's why this WrestleMania seemed a little off from my perspective.

Speaker 2:

That makes sense.

Speaker 1:

So let's go ahead and get into it. First match, of night one they started out with the World Heavyweight title Jay Uso versus Gunther Pretty good match. They started out hot. Obviously the crowd loves Jay Uso versus Gunther Pretty good match. They started out hot. Obviously the crowd loves Jey Uso. Obviously, neither of us was surprised that Jey won, but my thoughts are. Was you surprised that not only did he make Gunther tap out, but he almost made him tap out pretty quickly to his own move?

Speaker 2:

That's my issue. I don't know if I want to say that's my biggest issue with Nightwool, but I think I want to. He kind of tapped real quick. Guthrie has been displayed, like Jacob, as this dominant force that is unmovable, that's unstoppable. Only time he really lost was when he lost his Intercontinental Championship so he could move into the heavyweight scene. For him to lose that quick, I feel like it's. I'm not mad at the match, I'm just mad that it should have been a little bit longer. That's my. I think that's my biggest. My biggest gripe from night one is that I'm cool with the submission. I'm cool with it being his own move, even though if you make a person tap to their own move, you would think it would be a continuous series and I don't think they're going to continue this. But cool, but make them work for it. Yeah, not hold them one, two, three, all right, gump is tapped. You know what I mean, because Gump ain't no quitter.

Speaker 1:

My only hindsight thing to this one is obviously not a lot of people know much about Gunther pre when he got the NLT and he got to the main roster, but obviously he was in the NXT UK. He held the NXT UK title for a very long time. He did end up losing it to Ilya Dragunov who is on the main roster. He's hurt at the moment but he lost to Ilya in pretty much a similar fashion. He choked him out, got to tap very quickly. It's happened before. Obviously it hasn't happened in the main roster level, so people probably don't know about it. But hindsight, it has happened before. But still hold on a little bit longer for my liking before you tap out Gunter. That's how I saw it. But JL also won Pretty easy to predict. But hey, I for sure enjoyed it.

Speaker 1:

Next match probably shouldn't have been on the card. This probably shouldn't have been on tonight's Monday Night Raw, especially considering what happened Friday as they announced a TLC ladder match. I want to say it's either Triple Threat or Fatal 4-Way tag team ladder match for the SmackDown tag titles, which is perfectly fine. They've been building up to it perfectly fine, but again, y'all been building up to it perfectly fine, but again, y'all been building up to it. Y'all should have had that match on the Mania card. War Raiders reached a new day on the Friday of Raw after Mania, which would have been fine. The match was nothing to talk about. I mean, these four men are good in the ring, but this could have been on a roll. The New Day snuck out a victory, they got the titles and they took off running up the stage Simple.

Speaker 2:

I think this match got on the card because the simple fact Triple H looked at it was like, well, that is the New Day. They put in a lot of work. They got on the WrestleMania card because of their name, not because of what they've been doing. That's how new they got on this WrestleMania card. They got on there because of who they are. This was a legacy pick. No disrespect. No disrespect to neither one of them. Brothers, you know Kofi's been doing this for a long time. No disrespect. But they got on this card for a legacy pick. Like disrespect, but they got on this card for a legacy pick. Like you said, the match should have been on Monday Night Raw, especially the way that it played out. Man, that match was like what a two out of five.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's being nice. It was really probably closer to a one and a half.

Speaker 1:

It was crazy these guys are. We've seen these guys put on five-star tag team matches. You can tell they was told how they wanted it to end. It was like, all right, let's just throw something together, we don't need to do nothing too crazy.

Speaker 2:

It didn't feel special. This match did not feel special whatsoever, and I think that's part of the. That's kind of a lot of Saturday night. A lot of these matches didn't feel special. They felt like they was either thrown on the court or a feud was forced. Yeah, like the Jay and Gunther felt forced because we had already seen it.

Speaker 1:

They ended up building it pretty nicely towards the end of the feud.

Speaker 2:

but yeah, I was about to say they waited to do it the last week or two.

Speaker 1:

Last two weeks, yeah, yeah, I was about to say they wait to do it the last week or two, the last two weeks, yeah. So yeah, I mean, love the New Day, one of my favorite factions of all time. Y'all shouldn't have been on the card. I'm sorry. Y'all should have put that TLC ladder match for the tag man. You should almost never want to put them on free TV, but okay, here we go. Y almost never want to put them on free TV, but okay, here we go. Y'all did it. Y'all about to do it anyways for Friday.

Speaker 2:

Usa said man, y'all got to give us something too. Man, because the Monday like we talked about that Raw after the WrestleMania gets so many eyeballs, because everybody knows it's a thing, it's special. Usa said we ain't getting that this year.

Speaker 1:

That's probably the reason it's probably, you know, as I said, we ain't getting that this year, cause? Cause, yeah, that's probably the reason. It's probably the reason they need more eyeballs on the Friday night after mania. You're right Now that I think about it logistically. That's probably why they did it. It is what it is.

Speaker 1:

Next match Jay versus Naomi. Congratulations to both these ladies, I want to say cause, women usually don't get on the Mania card in a match unless there's a title involved. This was like one of the first, from my memory, blood feud happening with two women. Both of them had amazing gear. Pretty good match. I love the finish the way Jay tossed it, naomi and her power bombed it and hit it with the Jaded Again. Naomi's a great talent. She did her thing. Jay, she's clearly gotten better in the ring. My question is to you, though, and also I want your thoughts on the matches when do they go from here? Is this the end of the feud, because I was expecting Naomi to win and they to run it back again. I don't think it's the end of the feud, because I was expecting Naomi to win and Aiden running back again.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's the end of the feud because if you listen to Jade, after WrestleMania in the interview section she talked about how, basically, no, I'm not done with her, I want more with her because of what she did. So I think they definitely going to get a match at Backlash. From my perspective, I think they definitely going to get a match at Backlash. From my perspective, I think they definitely going to get a match at Backlash because, simple fact, Jay said she ain't done with it. The thought of the match was Naomi deserves help. That was because the match was good, but Naomi's such a great worker it helped carry. Not saying that Jay was bad because there was another women's match. That was not bad in my opinion, Not to say that Jey did bad, but Naomi helped carry that match.

Speaker 2:

I think she deserves her flowers for that. Naomi sold this on Twitter. Your daddy named you Twitter. I'm going to call you Twitter. Naomi sold this, the stuff that they was doing, and all that. Lj too, when she was talking about Naomi. I just want to know where you got your ass shots from. They did a good job of selling that themselves. I don't think they gave them a lot to work with.

Speaker 1:

No. I don't think they gave them a lot to work with? No, a lot of it was on Twitter, a piece of it was on TV.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they did the build for this match on their own on Twitter. So yeah, but as far as the match was good, it wasn't. I'm not saying it was a five-star match, I'm not saying that, but it definitely was better than the previous match, the War Raiders match.

Speaker 1:

Shit, everything was better than that.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Worst match on the card, New Day and War Raiders.

Speaker 1:

We'll go through all of them. I would say yeah, but that we'll go through. I would say yeah, but that was another match, we'll get to it. I don't think it was bad. I was just immensely disappointed and I thought it was going to be a lot better, but we'll get to it. Next match was LA Knight Jacob Fatu. I thought LA Knight was going to win. I thought he was going to retain. I thought Solo was going to cost Jacob. I don't know where I went wrong with that one, like I had six on LA night. That was a vital mistake by me. But Jacob Fatu, he dominated. He is now the US champion.

Speaker 1:

They did try I want to point out, they did try to do this. Jacob does a moonsault into a BFT. It was a little clunky. He clearly didn't get it all the way, but considering it's live, you get one shot at it. You gotta give him credit. It looked decent enough that it worked, but you could tell they wanted it to look a little bit better. But outside of that, pretty good match. Both these guys are talented. Nothing too crazy, but Jacob did win it with multiple moonsaults. Jacob's a US title. I'm surprised Solo came out to walk Jacob to the ring, but he just went to the stage and didn't turn around. I was expecting a little bit more, but hey, at least Solo got on the media card somehow.

Speaker 2:

I think that was also leading to what everybody thought. Everybody thought Solo was going to turn on Jacob. So Solo coming out out being his hype man makes you think, hey, we, I'm here, something's about to go down, I'm gonna turn on him. Yeah, y'all know what's coming. And then for it not to happen, I think that was smart. I think that actually was smart by wwe to do it that way not have so show solo, but not have solo come out. I think that was smart.

Speaker 2:

As far as the actual match, I knew I was about to say we, but I knew Jacob was going to win. He does. They just been like I talked about with Gunther. They've been showing that he was dominant and he's over LA Knight's over too, but Jacob's over, and they A Knight's over too, but Jacob's over, and they want to give him this moment. I do think LA Knight continues to get screwed. I think he should be introduced to the world title picture, but I don't see how that's going to happen because there ain't no hill with a title. But we know where it's going. We'll talk about that later.

Speaker 1:

He's not.

Speaker 2:

He ain't on that level.

Speaker 1:

I don't think he's on that level and I think at least for the next two shows. I know they got Backlash and they have Money in the Bank and then they got a Saturday. He may get a Saturday night main event, but John Cena I think they kind of already know where they want to go with John Cena. Like I said, backlash it's been confirmed Monday Night Raw is happening as we speak. He's got Randy Orton at Backlash and at Money in the Bank. I'm willing to put not a full paycheck but a half a paycheck that they're going to give it to CM Punk at Money in the Bank. I'll put a half a paycheck on that. I ain't going to put a full paycheck but I'll put a half on one yeah so that's why.

Speaker 2:

LA Knight. It ain't no world title shot, but he's over and they gave and they kind of not really pushing him as far as over as he is. So I don't know where you go. If you LA Knight, I'm pretty sure you're going to get a rematch for US title, but after that I don't know where he goes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know exactly. Know where he goes. Yeah, I don't know exactly. I feel like Carmelo Hayes need to go ahead and get a look at that US title for real. Shout out to him. He did win the Andre Memorial Battle Royal, which sometimes means something. Sometimes it doesn't. Hopefully it'll be something this time around.

Speaker 2:

Real quick speaking of Gunther. Like you said, wrestling is acting going on right now. Gunther choked out Michael Cole. What in the world.

Speaker 1:

Okay, go ahead. He did bad. Not that we're reviewing Raw, but I will say the way they had it framed, they had him choking out Pat McAfee you know Pat McAfee. He got his little entourage, his group that's on his podcast. They made those guys jump the barricade and they was trying to get at Gunther, but security was holding them back while other securities were trying to separate. It looked good, it looked devastating. Gunther looked like he's back on the rampage. We will see where they go from there. Might as well ask you, though, because I've been hearing. I don't know how true it is, but there's a man out there who's looking for his retirement match, and he's had a little beef with Gunther in the past. You think that is in the cards, because that's where I see it going. That's part of the reason why he doesn't have a title, because you don't want that to be a title match.

Speaker 2:

And that's smart. You don't want Goldberg to be a title match, because if he's, if Gunther's the champion, you gotta make it a title match. That's a good point. That's a good point. I think that you think that happens in a backlash or money in the bank, because wouldn't that feel more like a SummerSlam? Even though they are trying to, they are trying to make money in the bank bigger. So I guess I can see.

Speaker 1:

It may be SummerSlam. I wish I knew exactly. I think the next Saturday Night Main Event is in Tampa. If a Saturday Night Main Event was like in Atlanta or something, I'd say it would be at that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because it sounds like it.

Speaker 1:

But I don't know. I don't know. All I know is Goldberg said he's claimed it. Wwe is giving me my retirement match, Don't know when, don't know where. People are assuming it's going to be Gunther. That's kind of where it looks like it's going to be, because that's the last interaction he's had. Gunther was talking shit to Goldberg and his son.

Speaker 2:

If you, goldberg, don't, you want to win your last match. I don't see him having Gunther lose to him.

Speaker 1:

You probably want to. In the sense of what Goldberg is at, he probably should. But these guys when they're learning how to wrestle they're supposed to be like you're always supposed to go out on your back, like your last match. You're supposed to lose, to give the rib to somebody else. But in Goldberg's situation, since he's not around a lot, he's a consistent, active wrestler. How much can he give away? How much ore can he give to Gunter Fabino? Goldberg is like he's not the Goldberg of all three per se. That's all I can say. We'll see Next match.

Speaker 1:

So it was a Ray, but it wasn't Ray Mysterio. Get well soon. Ray Mysterio looks like he messed up his groin in a match on Friday. They replaced him with the new Ray Phoenix who had just debuted not too long ago. They basically just replaced Mysterio with Ray Phoenix. Still El Gran Americano. This match was excellent. Chad Gable can go. That man can wrestle. I wish they'd just take that mask off him, but he can go. He can absolutely go. I was a little surprised that he won. I was wondering, like I wonder, if they would have had this the same way if it was Rey Mysterio. Like would Rey Mysterio have lost, just like Rey Fenix lost. I don't know, but El Gran Americano beat Rey Fenix in an excellent match. I don't know what Chad Gable did or where he learned that Moonshark into the senton laying on his back, but that was some excellent stuff right there.

Speaker 2:

You. Okay, the match was excellent. But I don't feel that way about this match Because, I said it before, I feel like they're making a mockery of the Luchador names, especially because they just bought AAA, the AAA wrestling organization down there in Mexico. I feel like doing this El Americano thing. I feel like they're making a mockery of it.

Speaker 1:

It just don't sit right, I don't understand. I feel what you mean. I feel you.

Speaker 2:

I know that's not what they're intending to do. I know that's not what they're intending to do, but it feels like that's what they're doing. So I'm watching the match and I'm not watching it with the way I watch all the other matches. If that makes sense, I'm watching all the other matches as a fan.

Speaker 1:

You're already kind of out on the match before it started.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm watching it with tinted lenses, so, and normally I try not to do stuff like that because you know, but I don't know it, just it don't feel right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I understand, I understand. But yeah, I thought it was a good match. He did get a mask. I'm a little surprised he didn't, but hey, he wore himself. There's neither here nor there, yep. Well, let's go to pretty much the co-main event, tiffany Stratton versus Charlotte Flair, one of the longest matches on the card, but the other women wore a co-main at it, I like.

Speaker 1:

At the end of the match, tiffany Stratton looked like she was not in a non-scripted fight. It looked like she was in an actual fight with somebody. They was going at it Excellent match. But Tiffany Stratton ends up getting the victory over Charlotte Fleury. What are your thoughts on that Physical, very physical match?

Speaker 2:

I don't think the match is good, don't you like it? No, bro, I thought it started off okay. I don't think the Mets are good, don't you like it? Nah, bro, I'm just gonna. I I thought it started off okay but, like you said, the longer it got I felt like the chemistry. You could tell the chemistry wasn't there and you could tell that they got like real life heat. Yeah, they got real life heat in some of them shots and that's what caused some of it to be. It got sloppy at the end. I don't think it started out sloppy. A lot of people said it was sloppy the whole time. I don't think it started out sloppy. I think it got sloppy towards the middle and towards the end to make it look like a bad match, to make it look like both of them can't perform and both of them are great performers. But I feel like their personal heat got in the way of personal. He got in the way and I feel like it feel like Charlotte gave Tiffany some real shots.

Speaker 1:

It looked like it. You would look, look at her face half of the minute. She got, she got crazy.

Speaker 2:

And I think that should be the. I think that should be our question that we answer now. Is Charlotte Flair the problem? What do you think? Because I'm starting to feel like because Charlotte has a beef with Becky, charlotte has beef with other female competitors. Is Charlotte Fleur the problem Because it's starting to feel that way?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I wouldn't say she's the problem. I think she knows how important she is and she gets away with stuff. At least I think it's because she wouldn't have did that with Becky. I think she was trying Tiffany, because she's still basically a rookie. I think she was trying to see what she could handle. Tessner, I think this was a one-time thing with Tiffany, that maybe they're respectful of each other. I think with Becky they're both at the top and when two people are at the top it kind of gets a little hectic. So I think it's just you know, you talk with her and Becky. That's two people at the top. Tiffany's still a rookie, so she was just trying her, testing her out. So I think it was just those two things, because outside of that the beef has been beneficial, but she hasn't been there a lot with her injuries, unfortunately. So maybe that's why.

Speaker 2:

Maybe, it has something to do with it. Okay, we'll say we'll call it at this time, but if she gets to another match and you start looking personal, all right, man, we got to call it.

Speaker 1:

She the broad she did. She did have a little thing with Don Jacks too. That was a little crazy, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

That's what I said. It's multiple females, it ain't just one or two.

Speaker 1:

You're right. You're right, we have to. I I'm going to check that out next time. We'll see where she goes from here. Tiffany, I don't know where she goes from here either. They might do a rematch. I don't know who Tiffany is going to go after. Jack still needs a rematch, really you didn't get it, you're right now for the main event.

Speaker 1:

Triple threat CM Punk, roman Reigns and Seth Rollins A great multi-person match. Like I said, all the multi-person matches on WrestleMania were excellent. This was not the exception. This was excellent as well. But the match is not what people are talking about. They are talking about what people are pretty much saying we should have saw it coming. Paul Heyman turns on CM Punk, then he turns on Roman Reigns and now he's sided with Seth Robbins. We probably should have saw it coming. Just because it's predictable doesn't mean it wasn't good. It was good. But my thought is how did you feel about the Paul Heyman turn, double turn, to align with Seth Rollins?

Speaker 2:

So the first thing I'm going to say, b B Haywood, that was the guest on the prediction shows we we had him on. He tagged me in a post on Facebook. He said what I tell you. I told you that Paul Heyman was going to side with Seth Rollins. We should have bet on it. We should have, because the man would have won some money from me. Because I didn't see it. I didn't see it coming. I should have seen it coming because I didn't see it. I didn't see it coming. I should have seen it coming, but I didn't see it coming, even though I thought about it. But I was like nah, it ain't going to happen.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know how it was going to end. But I didn't think it was going to be like that because Seth Rollins basically said I don't need your favor. So you kind of like I thought they was counseling that out so it wouldn't become a storyline. And it ended up being the storyline. So I didn't see it coming. I didn't. The match was great. Like I said, I think this was the best part of the night. I think the match was great. I think all three of them performed excellent. You could see it in the match If you watch it. They all have the stunts. They checked on each other. You can see they actually care about each other, compared to the previous match where Charlotte was just hitting that woman didn't even think twice about it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

But now I'm excited to see where this goes. I wonder if Paul himself maybe link up with John. You know, because link up with John, you know? Because that's been going on Twitter a lot. I want to see where this goes, because Seth Rollins don't need Paul Heyman. No, he don't. Paul Heyman don't need Seth Rollins, but you put them two together and I think Paul Heyman is good as a heel. This whole baby trace Paul Heyman thing is cool, but you know it didn't heal Seth Rollins' foot in work too, so I'm excited to see where this goes.

Speaker 1:

It should be some excellent work, man. Excellent, I hate to say it, jay, that title is going to look real nice on Seth.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we got to talk about these word head boy titles. We're going to wait until we got to talk about these World Heavyweight titles. We'll wait until we get to the John Cena thing, because some stuff got to make some sense and it ain't making sense right now. So yeah, yeah. But no, I think, like I said, I think the match is good. It was the best main event. I can say that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, we're going to get there. That other main event was garbage, hot garbage, but yeah, we're going to get there. That other man was garbage, hot garbage, but yeah, seth Rollins. I imagine he's going to have the World Heavyweight title by SummerSlam at this trajectory. He looks good, he look good. So I guess we can go ahead and slide to the second night.

Speaker 2:

Night two.

Speaker 1:

Night two of WrestleMania. This is the night again. This is where Q put belt to ass on me. I mean, it was rough on me, man. It was one of those moments where I just had to go into my room and cry. That's how bad he was. It was one of those butt whoopings. Y'all know, when y'all was a kid y'all parents gave y'all that good, that good butt whooping. All you could do is go in your room and cry and then go to sleep. It'd be the best sleep of your life, but hey, that's what happened.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't that bad.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't bad, it is bad. But let's go ahead and start out with the match of the night, because that was the match of the night. Io, scott Rhea Ripley and Bianca Belair. Match of the night, maybe match of the weekend. The only contention is the stand and deliver triple threat and the main event triple threat of night one and the triple threat matches, chef kiss all around. That ending was spectacular. Bianca hit Rio with a KOD and Io came out of nowhere with a moonsault. And not only did Bianca lose her streak, they can't even say she hasn't been pinned at WrestleMania because she was the one to get pinned. And not only did Q predict Io to win, he also predict Bianca to be the one to get pinned. So you was absolutely right. We're going to nip this streak in the bud. You ain't got it.

Speaker 2:

It's over. Call it home, it's over. Call it home, it's over. You're not going to be the undertaker. Baby girl, we love you, we appreciate what you're doing, but that type of streak stuff is only for one person, and one person only. And he lost his yeah. So it was a wrap, it's donezo.

Speaker 2:

So you know, I'm going to take a little minute to blow her, because Io deserves so much credit for the amount of work she does. Hell, like we said, we're not reviewing Monday Night Raw, monday Night Raw, but the match she just had with Vakir Not Vakir, damn the NXT Women's Champion, Stephanie Vakir. You were right, stephanie Vakir, champion. How can I? Stephanie back here? You're right, stephanie back here. Okay, yeah, I was kidding. Thank you. That match was a good match. Both of them were some great workers. Eo continues to put on good matches time and time and time again.

Speaker 2:

I watched a video. This is where my love for her came from. I watched a video on Facebook of her and Penta wrestling. I don't know if it was Mexico or New Japan. Wherever it was, she was putting belt to ass with Penta, she was hanging with Penta and Penta's a beast. So I've been in love with Io ever since I've seen that video and especially because in this build up for this match, everybody's talking about the two big stars, two mega stars, the two that's on the commercials. You know, rhea was in Fortnite. Was it Fortnite? It wasn't in Modern War Horse.

Speaker 1:

She was in some video. She was in Call of Duty. Thank, you.

Speaker 2:

Bianca's out here doing the Slim Jim commercials and all these other make-a-wish thing. These two big stars, these two pillars in the women's division. It's been made about them, and EO was like the forgotten person, the person that was getting disrespected, the person who them two was arguing back and forth about a world title. They be the one in them head, she, the one with the belt. Eo deserves so much credit and I love the way that they build the story. The forgotten woman. Never sleep on your opponent. Focus on somebody else. Focus on the goal at hand. The goal is the women's world title. Why are you looking at Bianca? Why are you looking at Rio Io Gats?

Speaker 1:

and that's kind of how they laid out the match. It was basically Bianca and Rio focused on each other a little bit too much and Io just slid on in there and took the title. She didn't take the title, she just kept the title on her waist, where it belongs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she deserved it. She took it out on her. Shout out to Io, yep.

Speaker 1:

Next up is Drew McIntyre versus Damian Priest in the Sin City Street Fight. You know, sin versus Damian Priest in the Sin City Street Fight. Sin City Street Fight both these guys was good. I mean, I wasn't really locked into this match per se as the other ones because I didn't care about it that much. The highlight of it to me is when Drew McIntyre took a picture and tweeted up. Boy, that worked again. Last time he did it didn't work out so well. This time worked out well for him. Drew McIntyre got him a dub. I'm sure he's looking to be a World Heavyweight Champion. Jey Uso, you got some people coming for you. You just say it I got some people coming for you.

Speaker 2:

I am glad the match happened so both of them could get on WrestleMania. I do believe that this, like you said I mean this is probably one of the few conclusion situations that was on WrestleMania card we don't have to take this no further. This don't have to go to backlash. Cool. Damian Priest needs to go off and do something else. Drew McIntyre needs to go off and do something else. World title pitcher, whatever the case may be. Both of them needs to go off and do something else. World title pitcher, whatever the case may be. Both of them need to go separate, separate and do their own things. But this match, this match was good to me, it was good yeah, I just didn't care about it that much, that's really all yeah, it was good.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't, man one of those. It wasn't great, but it was good it was good, it did what needed to be done. Go ahead. What were you?

Speaker 1:

saying it did what needed to be done, go ahead. What were you saying?

Speaker 2:

It did what needed to be done. You're right. That's what I would give you.

Speaker 1:

It did what needed to be done. You're absolutely right. Next up let's go to a match. That was good and that was a fatal four-way for the Intercontinental title. Braun, penta, dom and Finn and Dominic Mysterio escaped with the Intercontinental title. Crazy that man was getting booed out the building not too long ago and he got so much pop and cheers so much after he won that title. It was crazy because it was somewhat similar to the EO Skies win where Dom just came out of nowhere with that frog splash on Finn and he got the one, two, three. He's a new Intercontinental Champion. That man. He's only like 27. I think I might be a little bit older than him. He's got a big trajectory ahead of him.

Speaker 2:

So my question is because, like you said, the way the crowd reacted and then, like I said, I watched the post-game I don't know what they call it because you know I don't know what they call it because it's wrestling, the post-match, the post-WrestleMania shows he got a pop then too, when they interviewed him Because they interviewed him in front of the crowd, not like a press conference he was out there with the crowd and he got a large pump. He was still trying to do the heel tactics. He looked at Big E and was like, yeah, you ever held this Intercontinental Championship. And Big E was like, yeah, I have. And he was like, well, I'm already the greatest. I only had it for 30 minutes and I'm already better than you. You know what I mean. And he talked about carrying both legacies of the Guerreros and Mysterio on his back, like dude is still doing the heel tactics, but the crowd is cheering like crazy.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know if the shift is happening. Is Dom still a heel or is Dom the baby face now? I don't really know the situation. I know Henry Finn about to get this, that I know, yeah, henry Finn about to get this, but I don't know. I don't know how to look it down. This match is great. This match is great. This match is great.

Speaker 1:

This next match, man, I had so much hope and and it let me down. Aj Styles versus Logan Paul yeah, it let me down. Not only did AJ Styles lose to Logan Paul, just the match wasn't good, it was slow pace. You two guys are too talented to be wrestling this slow of a pace. The finish was awkward. One of Logan Paul's goonies had the brass knuckles. Karrion Kross popped up out of nowhere to stop him. Aj Styles went out, talked to Karrion Kross. Karrion gave him the brass knuckles, told him to use it. Instead of using it, aj hit. Karrion got back in the ring, got hit with a pole, all paralyzed, one, two, three. I mean I was just so disappointed. The match was not good. I was expecting a lot more, but even if they was going to let Logan Paul win, I was expecting a good match, but I didn't even get that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let me ask you Was it that the match was bad or was you expecting more? So now it's making you see it as bad, because I don't think the match was bad, I just expected more.

Speaker 1:

I expected more. I thought this was going to be in contention with match of the night with, at the time, ray Mysterio Chad Gable. I thought that match was going to be considered match of the night. At the time, ray Mysterio Chad Gable I thought that match was going to be considered match of the night. I also thought the women's triple threat match was going to be considered could be considered match of the night, but this wasn't even. This was bottom tier. I thought it was going to be that conversation. It wasn't even the conversation of none of them.

Speaker 2:

Ray Phoenix and Elbron Americano would better do this to me if you say so, look, if you say so, nah, you right if I put me in, if I separate my feeling stores and just look at the match for the match.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you right, you absolutely right it just felt lackluster to you too very lackluster to you too, very lackluster like the main event, but we will get there. We will definitely get there. Any more thoughts on AJ Luger.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean the match was like you said. It wasn't what we was expecting. We was expecting a highlight moment because of some of the fact, even though AJ is talking about his retirement is coming soon and we know he can still perform and we know Logan can perform as much hate as Logan get, we know Logan will get busy in this ring, so we expected more. Like you said, you expected it to be a five-star. We got a two-and-a-half.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we got a two-and-a-half Very unfortunate Next up and this time we're going to talk a little bit about Monday Night Raw here as well. But it was Liv Morgan and Raquel versus supposed to be Bayley and Lyra. Bayley got beat up before night one forcing Lyra to find her partner and she found her fellow countrywoman in Becky Lynch. Becky Lynch came and her and Lyra defeated Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez to win the WWE Tag Team titles. Then, when we get to Monday is 24 hours later, liv and Raquel, they got a rematch and they won the title right back and Becky Lynch turned on Lyra on Monday. So your thoughts on the WrestleMania match and your thoughts on them only holding the title for 24 hours and Becky turning to Lyra, just like that.

Speaker 2:

Now I'm kind of Okay, let me separate, let me separate. The match was good. I thought that, okay, let me, let me, let me let me. I thought the match was good. They did what they need to do on WrestleMania. You got the pop of the man. She came back. Oh yeah, the crowd loves me. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Cool, go to the press conference with the daughter. She go full baby folks mode because the daughter's there, like I remember when Steph Curry did it with his daughter. Cool Then to turn around on Monday night just to have her turn heel. Wouldn't it be better for her just to turn heel at WrestleMania?

Speaker 1:

I would have rather that Me and you we've been very vocal on how they treat the women's tag team titles. They don't feel like they just want to put teams together. We're tired of them putting teams together. Get y'all some actual women. There's women out there that dream of winning the tag team titles too, not just men. I'm sorry. I would have preferred Liv and Raquel keep their tag team titles, keep that reign longer, keep them strong, instead of just losing them for 24 hours. They could have had. I guess they wanted the Becky Lynch win pop, even guess they wanted the Becky Lynch win pop, even though they got the other pop. But only thing I knew, when Becky was coming out I still thought Liv Raquel was going to win. I just knew Becky wasn't eating that pin. But I was like, damn, you don't want your intercontinental champion to eat the pin either. But she ended up eating the pin 24 hours later anyway.

Speaker 2:

So no, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to separate the two because, in fact, when I looked at the match yesterday I felt good about it, but now, after watching Raw, I'm like I just wasted our damn time, bro, and it would have made I you still would have got a pop, because Becky Lynch was there and she gonna turn a heel. And you don't expect Becky Lynch to third and she's going to turn a heel. And you don't expect Becky Lynch to be a heel because she's coming back.

Speaker 1:

That's the time to do it Right when they weren't expecting it. I mean, I guess still weren't expecting it today. But it would be even crazier at WrestleMania.

Speaker 2:

Why do it 24 hours later? So what happened in those 24 hours that made her be like you know what? No, I don't want to work with you. I just worked with you yesterday, but today, after we do our press conference and everything seems cool. I don't want to work with you today. Silly, it's silly, you don't. I don't know if they just planning that for the hey, it's the Raw after WrestleMania. We got to do some stuff. You got to do some stuff. Coming back, you did the stuff right there. You set up the Randy Orton situation. You did the stuff. You didn't need this. If you was going to do this, do it at WrestleMania.

Speaker 2:

Having Becky Lynch turn on Raw. To me, I feel like you wasted both. Basically, you wasted both the matches. From my perspective, you just wasted both matches. And if you need because I didn't think they when I seen that they, whoever won the match, had to defend the titles on NXT the next night, as soon as Michael Cole said that, I said Becky Lynch ain't fighting three nights in a row. Like, come on, becky Lynch ain't fighting three nights in a row. Yeah, come on, becky Lynch ain't fighting three nights in a row. She just got back, alright cool. So they getting ready to lose this match? How they gonna lose this match. I'm thinking Bayley's gonna come down and cost them the match. That ain't what happened. That would've made more sense than this. I agree and I will say I'm fully expecting that would have made more sense than this.

Speaker 1:

I agree, and I will say I'm fully expecting it to be Becky to come out as the person in the tank, maybe. I hope it's that. I hope it's that that makes sense, but we'll see, we'll see. I'm going to let it play out Triple H. I'm not a fan of how you treat women's tag titles. I'm tired of you treating them like men's card titles when you have men's card titles.

Speaker 2:

That you don't treat like nothing, that you treat like nothing. Because why, again, why is she in a tag team match when she has a championship on her waist?

Speaker 1:

Why is Chelsea Green not even on it? She couldn't even make an appearance on WrestleMania An appearance. All that work she's been putting in Couldn't even make an appearance. What?

Speaker 2:

are we doing? She's making that, chelsea's making that title feel like something. You can't give her a WrestleMania part. You couldn't give her a 10-minute match.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Randy Orton, we about to talk about that now. He got him a little five-minute match.

Speaker 1:

You couldn't find 10 minutes for her Come on Speaking of Randy Orton, that was a lot of speculation on who it was going to be. Nobody on the Prediction Podcast got it right. It was something out of left field and I heard another option was put out there. I'm going to ask you your thoughts on that a little bit. But it ended up being Joe Hendry. Say his name and he appears Joe Hendry. Now I know you don't watch NXT or you haven't watched NXT. He was on NXT pretty probably.

Speaker 1:

Obviously, joe Hendry is the TNA Impact World Champion, joe Henry. I've met him when he went to NXT. Personally, from my perspective, he's not my cup of tea. He's cool, not my cup of tea. I do recognize he is immensely popular. He has an over gimmick. That's neither there and he's the TNA Impact Champion and that's a big deal. To get a T Get you a TNA Impact World Champion on the card is a big deal, even if it's like a five-minute little quick match. Obviously they had to pick somebody that Randy Orton wasn't going to lose to because clearly he's got a world title match against John Cena coming soon. Don't mind him being Joe Hendry Pretty cool, wasn't a big fan? I'm not a big fan of him. But hey, get your little WrestleMania check Shout out to the TNA. But there was word out there on the streets that another option was Jeff Hardy. So I want your thoughts on that option and I want you to talk to the Joey Hendry.

Speaker 2:

I honestly like the option that they went with and I don't want the Jeff Hardy option. And I'm going to tell you why. I listened to Triple H in the post-WrestleMania press conference. He made a solid point. You had this great build-up between Randy Orton and Kevin Owens. You don't want to put Randy Orton in. It wouldn't feel right putting Randy Orton in another serious match versus somebody that could actually compete with him. And I don't think you bring Jeff Hardy back to have him basically squash to Randy Orton. You don't do that. He was a world title in your company's history. He's a world champion in your company's history, so you don't have him do that. So I think Joe Hendry was the right person to bring out, because even Rusev Ed would have been a competitive match and you don't want Rusev to come back looking weak. Yeah, so you needed it to be somebody like that. You didn't need it to be like a complete squad, needed to be like a complete squash, but you also needed a pop. Joe Hedren gave you that.

Speaker 1:

He gave you that pop. The other thing he says he's got a immensely over gimmick. I'm not mad at him. And again, hey, get your nice little WrestleMania check.

Speaker 2:

That check probably hit more than the TNA check son and TNA needed that Definitely that's free for most Out of their pockets because they didn't have to pay him to go there. Wwe paid him to go there. That's free promotion. It was a win-win for everybody. Randy Orton got his match, joe Hendry got a WrestleMania moment, tna got free publicity and WWE looking like yo, we still work with people at her it's that other company that got problems.

Speaker 1:

That's what they say. That's what they say. Next up is Randy Orton versus John Cena. We had taken this down memory lane but with a twist we got Hill John Cena versus Babyface Randy Orton. And Backlash in Randy Orton's hometown of St Louis Hasn't been official, but we know where it's going. We see where it's going, we're not dumb. So how you feeling? Randy Orton, john Cena, does that? Give you the goosebumps, take you down memory lane like they do?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because, like you said, we've seen this match so many times before, but never like this, never. Randy Orton being the baby face Nah, I think this is dope. I think this is dope. I think this is going to be dope and I'm excited Because I thought we was going to have to wait for SummerSlam. We ain't got to wait for SummerSlam for this we getting this early. I thought, john C, I thought Randy Orton was going to be the one to you know, let you kill him. I'm going to put you out. I'll let you, boy, see you later. Adios amigos, that ain't what happened and we're going to give it to you live and direct early in this retirement tour. Let's play the hits early.

Speaker 1:

That's what they do.

Speaker 1:

Play the hits early and it looks like hopefully they, Hopefully they play another hit at Money in the Bank. We will get there when we get there, but let's get to this main event man. So John CD comes out no trying, still got the same music. And then Cody Rhodes comes out excellent ring guitar looking good and they had a pretty good match. It was solid. A little slow, but it was a solid, decent match. A lot of false finishes. I was a little surprised that John Cena did the avalanche or the super AA off the top rope and Cody Rhodes kicked out. Usually John Cena likes to keep that move protected, or WWE in general likes to keep that move protected, but they decided against get into this time around.

Speaker 1:

Where this match has turned for not only me but seemingly for a lot of people, is when Travis Scott came out to. The rock was nowhere to be found. My biggest one of my issues with the finish is John Cena picks up Cody Rhodes and tells Travis Scott to hit him with the ref right there. Like are you trying to get DQ'd? Obviously that's not what happened. Cody Rhodes eventually gets his get back against Travis Scott at Crossroads and then John Cena tries to hit Cody with the title. Doesn't Cody thoughts about hitting John Cena with the title? He's too good of a guy to do it. John Cena's not a good guy. Hit him with a low blow. Hit him with the title 1-2-3. Lackluster, Don't know I was expecting more. I don't knowuster, I don't know I was expecting more. I don't know. I don't have much to say. It was just such a lackluster finish to WrestleMania. But John Cena is a 17 time world champion, so congratulations to him.

Speaker 2:

He stands above everybody there you go, the match. The match was bad, take it back, sorry. Yeah, the match was bad. It felt quick, but John Cena don't wrestle that often, so you're only going to get him in spurts now. It's not the John Cena of. Oh, it felt quick. It also felt like they was forcing a moment and they got the Travis Scott moment. But did we really need the Travis Scott moment?

Speaker 1:

And he took so damn. I know the rep is long, but he took so damn long to get down there.

Speaker 2:

Jocena's looking around, smiling and stuff Like he's. So I get Trevor Scott, he's soaking in the moment, but you also got to understand like nah, bro, you got to put, get your little moment and you got to hustle down that ramp because we got to show that we trying to, you know, we trying to move along here. You got to make it look somewhat realistic. I don't it just don't feel like I'm glad he took the crossroads though yeah, I'm glad he took the crossroads. That did make me smile Like alright, he ain't just coming out here trying to. You know, like, don't touch me. Nah, he actually willing to put the work in and take the head.

Speaker 2:

I also give it the fact that you know, most of the time when celebrities come in, they be baby faces. Not all the time, but majority of the time they be a baby face. Trevor Scott is really leaning in toward his heel mode and I like the connection. I just don't like the way it was executed with the Trevor Scott and the John Legend, john Legend, john. I just don't like the way it was executed with the trucker guy and the John John Cena situation. I don't like the way it was executed and I also feel like we have to get Cody Rose's heel.

Speaker 1:

You think it's coming soon, this soon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it's coming Because I honestly think it was supposed to happen at WrestleMania. Cody said that himself yeah, but they'll do it with John Cena instead.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cody With John Cena instead.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cody's becoming a heel. Why, I don't know yeah.

Speaker 1:

It just didn't. And the Rock now showing up, it feels like damn, it just didn't feel right. Shout out to Cody, I mean shout out to John Cena for getting 17. But hey, y'all let us know, especially considering what we got last WrestleMania. That was an all-timer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was and this ain't it. But I listened to John Cena on Pat McAfee's show today and he made an interesting point about how yo I put in all this work over these years and this relationship is toxic. I give and I give to these fans and these fans don't give to me at all. I give and I give to these fans and these fans don't give to me at all.

Speaker 2:

Listen to John Cena on Pat McAfee made me feel the heel turn more. But I also like John Cena because in fact, they asked him some questions and he was like, nah, I ain't gonna talk about it here, I'm gonna talk about it on these people tuning in to Raw and SmackDown and hear these stories. I'm gonna say that type of questions for them. They asked him about Dominic Mysterio and Brian Berger. He was like, oh yeah, that ain't got nothing to do with me, so I'll talk about them all day. Yeah, them dudes are great and they put in amazing play. I love what he did and how he handled that Pat McAfee situation, especially compared to Paul Heyman.

Speaker 1:

Paul Heyman. He was trying to get banned from ESPN.

Speaker 2:

Paul Hamer went over and healed it up like a mother. He went over and healed it up like a mother. You know saying some comments about a certain ESPN personality that I don't know if ESPN wanted to be talking about.

Speaker 1:

That stuff was fresh, it wasn't even two hours.

Speaker 2:

He was on Twitter and seen it before he got on stage. My boy and he went nah.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure that's something you're going to talk about on another pod, though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're definitely getting that off tomorrow. On the Mixed Rats pod Definitely we're definitely getting that off. But yeah, yeah, we definitely getting that off tomorrow. That's fine, definitely, yeah, we definitely getting that off.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, that was pretty much WrestleMania. I'd say mid. I'm going to say mid now because last year was so great. From my perspective this one did not stack up to last year's WrestleMania 40. It wasn't okay. It was okay. I don't think there's any of these matches that I will go back on and maybe watch again. They got some memorable moments. Obviously the Seth Rollins one is the biggest memorable moment. But before we officially get out of here, monday Night Raw did just conclude.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if you had it on the TV, you didn't have it, so you brought up the man Bron Breaker. Pretty much going to say Seth Rollins came out with Paul Heyman I didn't really hear what they said because I was obviously podcasting. He apparently looked like they was healing it up. Cm Punk comes out. They beat Seth Rollins, beat up CM Punk. Roman Reigns comes out. He gets the jump on Seth Rollins Right before it looks like they get ready to go off the air. Bron Breaker comes out of nowhere and spares Roman Reigns. He spares CM Punk and you know they did a little bit more beat up of CM Punk and Roman Reigns, but pretty much it looks like it's Paul Heyman, seth Rollins and Bron Breaker. Looks like that's the alignment right now. Hmm, interesting. So yeah, I'm definitely going.

Speaker 2:

That's the alignment right now. Hmm, interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So yeah, I'm definitely going to. I need to listen to exactly what was said. Yeah, I'm going to have to go watch it. Visual-wise it looked great and I'm interested.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they got me excited a little bit. I'm going to have to go watch it. Let me ask you this before we get out of here though John Cena's a raw talent most of his career Yep, he got a world title. He got the Undisputed JD's title was the raw title.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep.

Speaker 2:

Who's going to smack them?

Speaker 1:

It should be John. It's supposed to be John Cena. But another issue I got Triple H. Can you make this brand split a little bit harder? It's too soft. It's too soft.

Speaker 2:

You got both the world champions.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. It's like the damn transfer portal over there at WWE right now, people going back and forth like it's nothing. Come on. Only thing that's hard is the tag teams. That's the only thing that's really separate.

Speaker 2:

That's it.

Speaker 1:

Everything else. World title on this show. Other title they on the opposite show Like can we keep it a little? Can we make us a definite bread split? And then you're going to make. Then you want me to watch the draft show when y'all do it Like it's supposed to be something we're doing damn well At. Y'all do it like it's supposed to be something we're doing damn well At first.

Speaker 2:

He gonna be on SmackDown the next day, even though he just got drafted around. Come on now. That's my question who's going to SmackDown? Because I don't know which one's going to SmackDown. I don't feel like John Cena's going to SmackDown.

Speaker 1:

But In terms of the title he's got, he's supposed to be on SmackDown. He's supposed to be on SmackDown.

Speaker 2:

He's supposed to be on SmackDown and Randy Orton is on SmackDown. That's what I'm saying. But who's going to SmackDown? I guess we shall see.

Speaker 1:

We shall see. But that'll do it for another episode of From Our Perspective. We got you guys a WrestleMania review. Hope you guys enjoyed WrestleMania. I did somewhat, but please like, please subscribe. If you enjoy the show, leave a comment. We got a lot of things going on at the Mixed Vibe Media group. Obviously we got merch. Please buy some from our perspective shirt. You don't need to get a from our perspective shirt. We got all types of shirts. We got Mixed Vibe shirts, everything you need Hats, blankets. I know y'all got blankets. I know your girl. I know y'all got that AC on blast because it's hot outside now. I know your girl need an extra blanket. You know she do. Might as well get you an extra blanket. I'm your boy, dion. I'll holler at you next time. Take it slow. Q.

Speaker 2:

We are another basketball support. Mr Bear aka, your name is on the fire. Might not put you to.