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The Knicks Survive: Eastern Conference Finals Game 5 Analysis

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The New York Knicks stay alive with a 111-94 win over the Indiana Pacers in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Finals, forcing a Game 6 back in Indiana. We analyze the key performances and look ahead to what's next in the playoffs.

• Knicks come out hot and aggressive, leading to the first game where the Pacers failed to score 100 points
• Jalen Brunson leads the way with 32 points while Karl-Anthony Towns adds 24
• Coach Thibodeau finally goes deeper into his bench, using 11 players total
• Tyrese Haliburton struggles with just 8 points after his previous masterclass
• OKC Thunder eliminate Minnesota in a blowout, with the T-wolves scoring just 9 points in the first quarter
• Discussion about Minnesota's future and potential star acquisitions to pair with Anthony Edwards
• NFL owners shockingly approve players participating in 2028 Olympics flag football
• Each NFL team can have one player represent their country in the Summer Games
• Dream NFL flag football team featuring Lamar Jackson, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase and other stars

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Speaker 2:

hey, what's up welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of. From my perspective, I'm your boy, dion, coming back to you for another episode. Thank you for joining us, guys. Please like, please subscribe to the podcast, please leave a comment and thank you again. We cannot thank you enough for joining us every single episode. But we're here again a regular episode. But we're also and thank you again, we cannot thank you enough for joining us every single episode. But we're here again a regular episode. But we're also going to give our live reaction to Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Finals with the New York Knicks against the Indiana Pacers. Once again, I'm your boy, deion, and I'm joined by the man, the myth, the legend himself. Captain Hader, how you doing.

Speaker 3:

And what do it is? You're another best boy, Mr Bill. I can't say your name upon this pie. Might not shoot a mile. What's going?

Speaker 2:

on DI Doing great man man watching some good basketball. This was actually the worst Eastern Conference game. I wouldn't say the worst, but this was the largest margin. So it wasn't as good as the other four, but we was bound to get one of them. But also we have the New York Knicks fan himself, quag. How are you feeling today, now that you're a New York Knicks survived another day.

Speaker 1:

That's all I'm asking for, man. Nah, I said he needed one mic, I just needed one more game.

Speaker 2:

If you hear me, so we do have one more game. We have a game five on Saturday.

Speaker 1:

Six, my boy.

Speaker 2:

I mean, kurt, you're right, game six on Saturday.

Speaker 1:

And then seven is what day? Monday. So we have a game seven on Monday All right, but slow your road.

Speaker 3:

You're getting too far ahead of yourself. Y'all won one little game and now you're acting like it's dirty.

Speaker 1:

What'd you say? What'd you say last time? Don't play with your food.

Speaker 3:

Don't play with your food. Paces and six. But that's also what I've been saying. Look, y'all two been adjusting y'all predictions of how far the series going to go. One point of seven, one point of five, they don't know. I've been saying Pacers in six this entire time. So let's not get crazy. We're talking about a game seven. You know what they say, if necessary. Why are we talking about a game seven? You got to worry about getting through game six.

Speaker 2:

So, yep, game six, we have a game six. So, yep, game six, we have a game six. But let's talk about game five. The New York Knicks won 111-94. This is the first time all playoffs that the Pacers did not score 100 points. So I mean, that's how you know. The Pacers did not have it. The Knicks actually came out ready to play. They came out hot, they came out aggressive. You can tell they did not want to go home. The Pacers hung around for a little bit in the first half Got it up to five, but the Knicks kept bringing it back up. Second half it was somewhat similar. The Pacers could never get it that close. They kept it somewhere around the 18 to 14 point margin. You can tell that not only was the Knicks but the fans in Madison Square Garden was holding their breath because they knew the Pacers are capable of coming back from 15, 16 points in a short span. You can tell they was nervous, but the Knicks held them off. Rick Carlisle and the Pacers they waved the right flag with about two minutes to go into the ballgame. So we have game six.

Speaker 2:

Tyrese Halliburton he didn't really show up today. Eight points, two rebounds, six assists After a master class. I never understand why players do this. They have a master class performance in a game and come back and do absolutely nothing. That's what he did. The Pacers was led by, of course, jalen Brunson with 32 points. He was helped out by Cat. He put 24 points up. There's something I really want to bring up Tibbs. He has been going to his bench, deep into his bench. I guess he finally realized the arrow of his ways, that you can't just play seven guys against the Pacers. So he's been going pretty deep into his bench. He went 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. He went to the 11th man and he only got one minute, but he went to the 11th man on the bench.

Speaker 3:

So credit to Tibbs. I was going to say some of them don't count because they was in the game scenario. I mean, I get it, they played.

Speaker 2:

They didn't really play yeah, but but 6, 7, 8, 9 of them had 10 or more minutes. So, Quagg, I mean you talked a little bit how you feeling watching this game. How did you feel? They started at a high. I know you was pretty excited, yeah, man.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, I'm just. All I needed was one more game. You hear me? They wasn't ready to go home. Like I said, the script is in David Stern somewhere. Turned over his gray, he said not today, you're not. Not today, you're not.

Speaker 3:

Let that man rest in peace. Let that man rest in peace. Stop saying that man's name, All right well.

Speaker 1:

The proof is in the pudding.

Speaker 2:

I'm assuming he wants another game, because if we have a game seven it'll be back in New York. I'm going to go ahead and talk to Q. Man your paces. You probably don't feel that nervous. You've been saying paces and six, paces and six. But how did you feel watching game five, especially considering the New York Knicks? They came out hot on fire early. Jalen Brunson had, I believe, 14 points in the first quarter. How did you feel?

Speaker 3:

Let me be full transparency here how I felt. I was more upset that we lost the game because I was planning on going to a comedy show on Saturday and now I got to go on Friday because I got a game six to watch on Saturday. So that's why I'm upset. Would it have been nice to do it if I? Yeah, so I could go on Saturday. I would rather go to the comedy show on Saturday. It's just me, that's just me. But I've been saying places in six the entire time. My son came downstairs he said Daddy, are you mad? I said no, I knew what it was, what I've been saying this whole time. I, because New York, what I've been saying this whole time, I don't feel the same way versus New York that I felt against Cleveland. New York is going to fight. New York got some dogs, they got some dudes. That's not going to mail it in. They ain't going to go. One, two, three can't come. It's not what they're going to do?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we'll talk about that in a second.

Speaker 3:

So how did I feel watching that game? I felt like, okay, this was expected. Would I have preferred not to lose back what 16-18 or whatever it was? Whatever the final total was? Yeah, I would have preferred not to do that, but no, I also don't go into the mental aspect of how the pressure now is on the prices of six In game. Six because of the fact you don't have to go back to New York. But we already proved that we can win there twice. We also already proved that we can win on the road. So now I don't feel like there's that pressure on Indiana now compared to how it's been. Yeah, but it's been pressure. The entire playoffs that's what the playoffs is based on is pressure moments, these high-pressure moments At any moment, yo you win or you go home. Brunson bowed out. What did you expect? He was going home. Cat bowed out All of a sudden. We can't man, we can't got nobody that can go to Cat.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know what happened there. That man turned up dude. As DQ said, the big purr turned up.

Speaker 3:

It's good man, Kitty Cat showing up. I got to give Kitty Cat his credit. He got her showing up. He got her doing his thing. Carl Anthony Towns but I've been saying that Carl Anthony Towns is a very offensive player. He should be having these stupid fouls that's consistent.

Speaker 2:

He had five fouls tonight, but I'm surprised he didn't foul out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he put somebody in the back, but they didn't call a foul on him.

Speaker 2:

So you know it is what it is. So I mean, it is what it is, but we have a game six. I'm assuming Q is going with his nicks and is going with his paces in game six. Dq is going to go with his nicks to make it a game seven. I'm going to go with the Pacers in Game 6. Tyrese is not going to have back-to-back bad games and that Pacers fan in the field house is going to be rocking. So winner of this series will have to face OKC. We're not going to talk long about this Western Conference OKC. They took Minnesota to the back of the barnyard and took them out like O'Yeller. Minnesota didn't even show up, bro. They only scored nine points in the first quarter and at that moment I knew oh, they're ready for Cancun. I was like it's cold in Minnesota, they're trying to get somewhere warm. They was ready for Cancun.

Speaker 3:

We don't got to talk much about it, but just quick thoughts on that terrible game of a game five. You know what the thing about it was.

Speaker 2:

I think I was talking to my son.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was talking to my son about it and I said Minnesota, it wasn't that OKC took the game as much as Minnesota didn't show up. They really was one, two, three can't go Because they scored nine points in the first quarter. And no shade to McDaniels. He's an excellent defender and he's going forward. He's going to have to be Anthony Edwards' running mate. He's going to have to be.

Speaker 3:

He missed three wide open shots in a row and you can see he started hanging his head. Then Conley missed a shot. So everybody was they was missing wide open shots. Yeah, okc got a great defense, but that first quarter, some wide open shots, it wasn't what OKC's defense necessarily was doing. That first quarter it was just they was missing shots and then it got in their mental, they got in their head. That's about it Also. Not only is it an athletic game and your skills, it's also a mental game, just like any form of competition. Once you get in your head, once you start overthinking, you're going to lose this game because you're not playing with the same flow and the same confidence. If you're not playing with confidence in any athletic or any sporting event, you're going to lose that game because you're going to psych yourself out. I mean now, they shot themselves in the foot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely right.

Speaker 3:

Nas Reed. Caruso, nas Reed had got a steal. He was drilling up the ball, drilling up the court. Caruso didn't even. He didn't even do nothing but gave him a little shoulder. He didn't even do nothing, but gave him a little shoulder. He didn't think Caruso was going to stand about. He lost the drill at office foot. You got OKC in your head. We're not even doing nothing.

Speaker 2:

They couldn't do nothing. Okc hitting on some crazy defenses that they probably haven't seen before, but that's no excuse. Looking at these stat lines, the only person that even remotely showed up was the guy that was on the milk cart in the last game. He had 24 points. Anthony Edwards had 19. Jaden McDonough had five, rudy had two. Mike Conley played 21 minutes and only had one assist and one block, so he got some good cardio in. Outside of that, I mean the bench they did. So Nas Reed had 11. Shannon had 11. Outside of that, I mean the bench they did. Nas Reed had 11, shannon had 11. Outside of that, minnesota didn't even show up. But, dq, I hope you didn't waste your time watching it like I did. Well, I only watched the first half. I didn't watch after the second half.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, no, no, we was doing a regular pod, so I don't even think that it came across my TV until I saw it was over with yeah, no, nah, they got it.

Speaker 2:

So before we move on to the next topic obviously OKC they're waiting for the winner of the Eastern Conference Finals. I'm going to ask both of you guys, for your perspective, for your perspective of team, for your perspective, for your perspective team, how do you feel like your team can go up against okay, like, do you think y'all have a chance against OKC? I'm going to start out with you, dq. You think the New York Knicks can go up against OKC and put up a good fight, because so far the only team that has gave them some trouble is the defending champs, who has probably the best play in the world in Jokic. You think the Knicks can do some damage to OKC?

Speaker 1:

I mean. So I'm going to tell you a little story. Back in the G, when I moved from up here back to Georgia, I came in contact with a young man who was three times my size, very high calorie, and you know nigga was fucking around me for a little minute and one day I got sick of it, stole on his ass, knocked that nigga jaw Fuck with me. You know, every now and then I just know I can get that left hook off on you.

Speaker 2:

So you know, I went for it again one time on his ass.

Speaker 1:

He caught it. That's what I see happening. If the Knicks play the Thunder, yeah, you might get a couple licks off, but they got the best record for a reason.

Speaker 3:

So you in the whole David and Kalaya story, okay, I mean.

Speaker 3:

I respect it? Do I feel like my face is going to hang with OKC, of course? What am I supposed to say? No, what am I going to be like? Nah, they're going to blow us out of every game. Yeah, I'm going to be like, yeah, my team can hold their own, as long as the thing we this game five versus New York Knicks, if we play OKC, we still have to do the same thing. We have to play our tempo, we have to play our style. That's what we did not do in game five versus the New York Knicks. We didn't play our tempo. We didn't score over 100 points. That's not our game. We are 130, 140-point team. That's what we do.

Speaker 3:

Tyrese Halliburton is great when he's running In half court. Sometimes he gets lost and I've said that before On this pod. I've said sometimes Tyrese Halliburton gets lost. So, yeah, do I feel like it could be OKC? Yeah, but I also feel like if we play our tempo, we could beat anybody, and that's the key to victory for us, for the Indiana Pacers, for game six is running our tempo. Tyrese Halliburton has to play like a superstar. Miles Turner is going to have to play defense. That's one thing I want to give Tyrese Halliburton credit, for he got switched on brus in this game. He wasn't moving out the way for the switch, he was attempting to play defense. Miles Turner is going to have to play defense versus Carl Anthony Towns. You need to quit letting that man bully you. It's crazy to say Carl Anthony Towns is bullying somebody. He's bullying somebody. But I mean that's what's happening in this game. Carl Anthony Towns is bullying Mal Cernan.

Speaker 2:

It's the offense, y'all going to have to stop letting that man bully y'all. I mean another thing y'all got to keep. Pacers got to keep. I don't know what it is. Is it just the New York Knicks? They're more gritty getting those offensive rebounds, but the Pacers suck at getting rebounds, especially defensive rebounds, because Josh Hart has been killing them on the boards, mitchell Robson killing them on the boards off instantly. So that's one thing the Pacers got to fix, not only if they play OKC, but they got to fix it yeah thank you, they need to fix that imposter syndrome too.

Speaker 1:

Keep it a bean.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right bro. Listen bro, that's not what I'm doing. I'm being positive, I mean it's your team.

Speaker 1:

You should be positive about it. What I'm saying?

Speaker 3:

When I say I'm being positive, I ain't doing no shots at this Knicks, the whole series. I ain't saying nothing negative about y'all. I'm being respectful because we're doing this for the pod. Y'all, I'm being respectful because we're doing this for the pod.

Speaker 1:

You're being respectful because you don't want LT to come for you.

Speaker 3:

Hey, you know me. You know me in real life. I debate LT any day, because after the debate is over, I'm still going to dump bro up and ain't going to take nothing first, because to me it's just a conversation. It's a conversation.

Speaker 1:

That's all I'm having is a conversation.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but what I'm saying is I've been respectful to your Knicks this whole series.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying bro Touche. Touche, you got it, bro. You got it. My bad, my bad.

Speaker 3:

Don't get me started, because I started talking about some stuff. Really, I'm going to get you to it.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying what you going with Call Cat Sweet. We all know that.

Speaker 3:

No, no, I'm talking about we going to talk actual basketball hurt. So you know what I mean. Oh man, that's funny we slide.

Speaker 2:

The Minnesota Timberwolves when did they go from here? Back-to-back years making it to the Western Conference Finals. Back-to-back years where they failed to get past the Western Conference Finals. Last year was against the Dallas Mavericks, this year was against the OKC Thunder. Obviously they have a superstar in Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 2:

Julius Randle is a sometimey second option, especially in this series. He was sometimey Mike Conley. He's getting up there in age. Don't think he's going to have much longer to go. He might have one more year left in him.

Speaker 2:

You know you got some good pieces like Nas Reed, jaden McDaniels, rudy Gobert. He is getting paid a lot to not be that much of a difference maker. We all know Rudy. He is probably two eras too late. The type of player he is. He's not very dominant offensively. He's a pretty good rim protector. I mean he's got multiple defensive players of the year award, so he's good at rim protecting. But he's too much of a liability on offense to play in crucial moments of ball games. So maybe they might have to get rid of him.

Speaker 2:

But my question to you guys you know there's some star players out there that may be looking to switch teams. You think the T-Wolves need to go after one of those star players. I mean, they have some good pieces. They can maybe grab a John Moran, giannis or KD. You think they need to do that Because they're there. They just need to get over that hump, and OKC is not going anywhere anytime soon. Nicola Jokic she's still an MVP candidate. I mean, the West is going to be deep. What should the T-Wolves do? Q Should they go?

Speaker 3:

after a superstar? Yes, will they get a superstar? Probably not. You know what I mean. Because one thing they got to make the money work Go Bird, go Bird is the trade piece. Rudy's the trade piece, rudy's the trade piece. Nobody want Rudy, unless they do a sign and trade with Randall. Hell, he, you know what I'm saying. Who wants Randall at this point? Yeah, he put up 20-something in his last game. Y'all still lost about 30. Those was empty stats. They looking at Randall like man, I ain't paying you that much money. So, yes, should they go after a superstar? Of course they should go after a superstar to his pair, next to Anthony Sands, because he needs a running mate. But will they get a superstar? Not realistically, because, especially with the Spurs, got all of them two draft picks in all this open space, open cap space, especially with the Spurs, got all of them two draft picks in all this open space, open cap space. And then the same hell, okc, got thousands and thousands of draft picks Also. Houston.

Speaker 2:

So if you're the GM for the Minnesota Timberwolves, if you're Alex A-Rod, one of the owners for the Minnesota Timberwolves, which piece, which superstar, would you go? Like I said, I mentioned John Moran, giannis KD's also out there, maybe some other ones out there, but which big-time guy would you go after?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I would call Giannis. I would call Milwaukee first. But if you're Giannis, do you want to go to Milwaukee? Do you want to go to the West? It's not necessarily. Do you want to go to Milwaukee, minnesota? Do you want to go to Minnesota? It's really. Do you want to go play in the West? You see what the West is. Do you really want to go after the West and stay East?

Speaker 1:

You get beat up in the East.

Speaker 3:

You got a better chance to get to the finals in the East, especially with Boston with Tatum out, and then you see what Philly is. Your real competition in the East is the two teams that's playing in the conference finals right now and if the Cavs can figure it out, that's it.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

I mean you know what I'm saying it's easier to stay in the East. Do you want to go play in the West, if you're honest? No, if I'm him, I wouldn't look at Minnesota as the real option Now. Kevin Durant, yeah, it gives you another score. You ain't got to worry about like Randall I heard putting up 20 points. Burley, you know Durant going to give you 20.

Speaker 2:

He's going to get you 23 in the sleep, yeah.

Speaker 3:

He's a walking bucket. Kevin Durant's the definition of a walking bucket. Yeah, that makes sense, but I don't know if Kevin Durant's also the piece.

Speaker 1:

And Johnson, no Johnson, no Full and.

Speaker 2:

Johnson no Johnson, no Johnson no For Minnesota Johnson no. Quag, what you got, what you think.

Speaker 1:

I think they need to get them a second win. You need a Scottie. Like I said last part, you need a Scottie Now. I don't know if an older Scottie Like I said last part, you need a Scottie Now. I don't know if an older Scottie would work, or maybe a younger Scottie, Maybe a Scottie Barnes, maybe you need a Scottie, though that boy need a Scottie.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to mention two names out there for you guys. I'm not 100% sure these guys are. Even I know one guy is for sure on the trade block, but one of them. He's one of two people with no trade clause, so it's up to him if he wants to go. The other one I would prefer him. But my question to you guys do you think?

Speaker 3:

I know you ain't about to say who I think he is.

Speaker 1:

I think he is.

Speaker 2:

He's about to say who I think he is. I think he is. He about to say a real Scotty, either Devin.

Speaker 3:

Booker or Bradley Beal could go up there and work. That's who I knew he was about to say. He was about to say Bradley Beal. I'm not trading for Bradley Beal whatsoever. I'm just asking though.

Speaker 1:

Booker, either. I don't think that can work. I Booker, either. I don't think that can work? I don't think that works, For Minnesota at least.

Speaker 2:

I mean the reason why I said Booker, because there were some times I don't think it was so much this year, but there were some times in the past. They put him at the one and he was pretty successful at the one.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but that ain't what he wanted to do. That's just what he had to do. Devin Booker ain't a war because he want to. He played point and quarter because he had to, because there was nobody else on that team to be able to do it.

Speaker 1:

We'll put them two I thought you was going to say Paul George, the ultimate number two.

Speaker 3:

He ain't got no Trey Claws. It was either Bradley Bill LeBron.

Speaker 2:

Bradley Bill LeBron. Bradley Bill and LeBron is the only two players in the league with no Trey Claus. When I heard that, it was like whoever Bradley Bill's agent is, he need to put his sweater vest in the rafters, because how did he get one?

Speaker 3:

Because Washington is Washington. How did he?

Speaker 2:

Outside of LeBron. I feel like there's some players that should. Nicole Jokic should have a no-trade clause. I don't know what his agent was thinking.

Speaker 3:

They don't give those in the NBA, though. That's why nobody got them. Lebron got it, because LeBron is LeBron. That's why LeBron got it, and Bradley Beals just played for the Wizards, and Washington is Washington and they disagree to it. They don't give those out in the NBA. If Steph ain't got one, ain't nobody else getting one, true?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, steph, and the color yogis ain't got one. Nobody, you got to be a different type of dude to get one. If LeBron Bradley Beal got one, like I said, put that man's sweater vest in the rafter, because how did he get one? If I'm Bradley Bill, I want to go to Mavs. That's probably where you wanted to go to originally.

Speaker 3:

Because, simple fact, I can go down there and be. I can go back to being me. I don't got to be nobody's third option. He could be the number one option on offense and Bam is good enough on defense to have him.

Speaker 2:

So he's just going to bump Tyler Hero out the way, or would you trade Tyler Hero for him?

Speaker 3:

I mean to me they play Tyler Hero at a point guard, even though he's not a point guard. Same thing as Devin Booker. He played point guard because he had to, not because he needed it, not because he wanted to. Man, make them two work. You can make them two work offensively, now work. You can make them two work offensively Now. I forgot about Tyler Hero. He is bad on defense, yeah, that might be a bad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, never mind. Alright, so let's take a some. I mean Boston they're getting rid of, they're about to start getting rid of pieces. Christoph Porzingis, maybe he can get healthy. We'll see Derek White, drew Holiday maybe, maybe Jalen Brown, but I really doubt that he goes anywhere, especially with Jason Tatum out. They need somebody to hold the boat. Anything on that Boston-Southers roster you think could help out Minnesota.

Speaker 3:

Drew. The only person I think that's really available from Boston right now is Drew Drew. You're just getting another old point guard, because you already got that with Conley, so that don't make sense. Drew only makes sense in certain places, because in these playoffs he showed that he was old. You know I love him, he's Drew. Drew showed that he was old in these playoffs, so, no, he only makes sense in certain places. Minnesota is not one of those places, and I don't see them. I don't see them getting rid of Brown or White, all right.

Speaker 2:

So Minnesota y'all kind of stuck in the pickle. I mean, y'all can stand, Pat, but who knows if I can make it to the West Conference Finals next season. Minnesota they got some things to figure out. I do like the.

Speaker 3:

Scottie Borns, though with Quagg's name. Scottie Borns of Minnesota would be a good fit. It would. It would be a good fit. And they got Ingram Inborns. You really playing them together. These y'all got RJ Bird.

Speaker 1:

RJ Bird too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they got some people. They got to figure that team out.

Speaker 2:

Yep, they do. They do, I agree. But that's it for the NBA talk. We got some NFL talk to talk about, mostly NFL summer talk. We didn't talk about it. They had the owners meeting and they voted on the rules committee. But they agreed to let NFL players play in the Summer Olympics of 2028 when they're going to host flag football Now me and Q have talked about it. Football Now me and Q have talked about it and, like I said, I am honestly shocked that the NFL owners agreed to letting players play in the Summer Olympics.

Speaker 2:

Considering, if you know about the Summer Olympics, it's played like what? Two, two and a half weeks, or the first two and a half weeks of August. If you know about the NFL, that is prime training. Play like what? Two, two and a half weeks of all, the first two and a half weeks of august. If you know about the nfl, that is prime training. That's like not even training camp, no more. That is pre-season. The pre-season of the season, like they're getting august, is all about pre-season.

Speaker 2:

The fact that they're okay with only one player from each roster, though, it's kind of crazy. Pashma holmes already came out and said he's going to let the young guys do it because it's only four years. Matthew Stafford, they asked him, he said maybe the coach, because he said he's not playing because he's going to be too old. Not to me. Other people have really said they will and won't.

Speaker 2:

But another question, though, is like should they have a lot of NFL players on it? Because obviously, one in the preseason is the end of the preseason and two it's technically. We have an American flag football team out there that has played flag football pretty much year-round and knows the nuance of flag football. Let's call it Spanish bag, spanish bag, spanish baby. Flag football is different from tackle football. Obviously, you got some athletic freaks like Jamar Chase playing tackle football, but there's different things in flag football that you can do, and, honestly, I personally feel if you take 10 NFL players and 10 flag football players and put them on the field in a flag football game, I feel like the flag football team would win against 10 NFL players if you just throw them out there.

Speaker 3:

I think it depends on the 10 NFL players. I do think it depends on the 10 NFL players. Good, like you said, them dudes are some freaking athletes too you think so.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, man, I don't, I don't think so. Oh, and there's a. There's also another thing that we need. I needed to point out that the this, the summer Olympics happened in early August. They got to train for that too. You can't just send them over there, so they not just going to be gone in two weeks August, they'll probably be gone all of July, so they'll probably miss all of training camp.

Speaker 3:

So I think, necessarily I don't think it's important for the USA to have those flag football competitors. I think it's more important for these other countries who don't necessarily play football Like you talked about before. I mean, you talked about, I think, before more important for these other countries who don't necessarily play football Like we talked about, like you talked about, I think, before, pied or post-Pied. Kyler Murray is a descendant from, I think it's South Korea.

Speaker 2:

Yep, and Kyle Hamilton too. Yeah, so South.

Speaker 3:

Korea probably like well, they ain't really got nobody to do it, you got two guys right there. I think it's more important for the other countries to, for this rule is more important for the other countries than the actual American National Black Football Team. I think it's for the other countries, I think it will benefit them more, and I also like the fact that it's only one player from each team. So the most you're going to get is 32 NFL players. That's the most you're going to get is 32 NFL players. That's the most you get, as long as it ain't your quarterback, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying training camp, and all of that is not important. As long as it ain't your quarterback, I think these NFL teams can make it work. Like I said, calum Murray is a quarterback. You might have to figure that out, but he's more than likely still going to be in Arizona.

Speaker 2:

So he's been there that long.

Speaker 3:

He might be able to miss a couple weeks of training camp. I think I like the rule. Personally, I'm surprised they did it. Like you said, I'm shocked at the NFL, because you know the NFL don't care about nobody else but themselves.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Maybe they're looking at this as a marketing tool.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's what they have to be looking at it as Like they're trying to. I mean, Roger Goodell, they've been trying to grow the game. That's why they've been having all them games across the pond and in Germany and all the places they're trying to grow the game. Another point, the reason why I'm shocked is they're paying these players a lot of money. Say, a Jamar Chase goes over there, pulls a hamstring, knock on wood, has a non-contact injury of some sort, he out for the season. You know how mad I would be if I'm an owner GM. Then my star player went to play some flag football and now he can't play what we are paying him to do.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now Cincinnati going to be pissed. Cincinnati be pissed as hell if Jamar Chase went over to a hamstring.

Speaker 3:

But, I don't know, I still like the rule, man, I like. I mean, I know it's an injury risk, but I still like the rule and like, like we talked about before, it ain't like your offensive line and your defensive tackles and your defensive line and your middle linebackers, they not going over, it's going to be. It'll be your running backs, your wide receivers and your corners, your secondary. That's who's going? Because now that's about a team, you only. I don't think a quarterback, I don't think a quarterback is going to play for the US National Team.

Speaker 2:

Speaking of quarterbacks for the US National Team, the quarterback for the USA flag football team currently Darrell Dushett III. I'm sorry if I butchered your name. I apologize my man, but he the third. I'm sorry if I butchered your name. I apologize my man. He quoted this is a sport that we played for a long time and we feel like we are the best at it and we don't need other guys. Pretty much him saying he don't want any regular football players to come.

Speaker 3:

Would you, if you know your competition is Joe Burrow, If your competition is Joe Burrow, if your competition is Joe Burrow, would you want Joe Burrow to come take your child? I wouldn't either. So of course, he's going to say that that's from my perspective. That's why he's saying it also from my perspective, the NFL not only is it a marketing tool, this is also a flex by the NFL saying we don't let our people play in this, because we know that we're more, our players are better than y'all little flag football players. That's how the NFL do this too. Y'all little flag football dudes, yeah, our players is better, and they only going to play it during the summer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think they that much better. Man, like I said, somebody said it's a great idea. I don't know if it'll happen. Actually, I know it won't happen, considering the rules of the NFL. But somebody said you know you get your what we talked about earlier. You get an NFL team together and you get the current USA flag football team together, have them play sometime in July when it goes to Olympics. It's not going to happen, but I would like to see it. I would like to put them two teams on. Put them two teams Because I know that USA flag football team. They're going hard. They're going to see the NFL players. They're going to go hard. I don't know. I don't think too many NFL players are actually going to go. I don't think too many NFL players are actually going to go.

Speaker 3:

I hate to put you on the spot, but we'll do it together. Let's pick 10 NFL players for the USA, for the NFL players to go against the USA national flag football team.

Speaker 2:

Who has to be our first pick? The way flag football works, you have to have a dynamic quarterback. So it's got to be Lamar Jackson or John Shatlin, I think. If we're going right now, I think Lamar Jackson. The way the game flag football is, he's more dynamic. John Shatlin is more of a bruiser. That's not how you're going to do it in flag. So I would go with Lamar.

Speaker 3:

Jackson as my quarterback. Okay cool Justin.

Speaker 2:

Jefferson. Yeah, Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I feel like that was a Okay, who else?

Speaker 2:

You got to put Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3:

Okay, chase Hill, tyreek Hill, If we're going right now, yeah, yeah, you have to put Tyreek Hill up. I don't think, tyreek Hill would be that guy still.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, okay, you got to have a tight end. Who's basically the center? Okay, you see, now, that's when it gets hard because oh, who's going?

Speaker 3:

right now.

Speaker 2:

My first thought was Brock Bowers.

Speaker 3:

honestly, yeah, I forgot about Brock Yep, bowers, yep, yep. Okay, right now. So far you got Jackson Jefferson, lamar Jackson, justin Jefferson, jamar Chase, tyreek Hill and Bob Browse.

Speaker 2:

Okay, say his name Bob Browse and then go ahead and throw Mr Barkley back there next to Lamar.

Speaker 3:

Ooh, saquon. Yes, sir, so Saquon Barkley. Yeah, I know, we need some we got to have some defense. Yeah, definitely got to have some defense. So, on the defensive side, who do you? Do you have anybody off the top of your head?

Speaker 2:

I have Sertan Jr in one of the corners.

Speaker 3:

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, the second corner tough. Second corner is tough.

Speaker 3:

I'm trying to think I was about to say Hamilton, but like I said, he gonna play for them he gonna play for them, darius Slade he's a little old, I mean, I like Trayvon Darius Slade. He's too old, he's a little old, he'd be a little too old.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I like Trayvon. Trayvon is a pick artist, but he's hurt right now.

Speaker 3:

What would you like for the Jets oh?

Speaker 2:

South Garden.

Speaker 3:

South.

Speaker 2:

Garden. Yeah, I like that. South Garden and Gardner though the crazy thing is, Kyle Hamilton is the best safety. Yeah, I know I'm thinking of other safeties. Kyle Hamilton is the one.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're going to have to leave him out because, like I said, he's going to play places in South Korea, which I ain't mad at him so, hmm, mad at it so hmm, Okay, now I'm drawing a place on the defense.

Speaker 2:

Unless you want to meet the Fitzpatrick. I like that. He had a down year last year, but I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 3:

Okay, oh damn, what's that dude that played for the Texans down here last year, but I'm not mad at it. Okay, oh damn. What's that dude that played for the Texans?

Speaker 2:

The Texans.

Speaker 3:

I'm about to look it up.

Speaker 2:

Safety. I think he plays corner. I know a passer he plays for. Oh no, no, he did have a good year too, damn. What's the dude's name? Derrick Steeley Jr. Thank you, derrick Steeley Jr. Actually, I'll put him over there before sauce. You got to have a pass rusher. That's Micah Parson, off the top of my head.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, he does fit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think you might have to have another one of those type of guys.

Speaker 3:

All right, Michael Parsons.

Speaker 2:

I like Fred Warner as my linebacker All right, cool.

Speaker 3:

Fred Warner and Michael Parsons All right, cool. So this dude go over what we got Fred Warner and Michael Parsons Cool. So this is Drew Go over what we got Lamar. I know we're going to need more players, but this is just.

Speaker 2:

Off the dome.

Speaker 3:

Off the dome, lamar, for the NFL players to go against all of the national no, the American flag football team versus the NFL players. Lamar Jackson, justin Jefferson, jamar Chase, tyree Hill, bowers, saquon Barkley, pat Sartain, sauce Gardner, mika Fitzpatrick, derek Stingley Jr, fred Warner and Micah Parsons.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, okay, that's a solid team.

Speaker 3:

I feel like we got a solid team. Of course we're going to have to put some people around it. We need another wherever season, I ain't mad to take Dale.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, that's a deep threat.

Speaker 3:

I wouldn't be mad. I thought it was Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 2:

I thought of him as safety, because I mean speaking of NFL talk I mean he's on the trade block, don't know where he could go, but apparently he's on the trade block, he's not going to go to the TO.

Speaker 3:

Nobody want to pay a part of that $20 million. No, let's just. Hey, man me ain't ready to cover that whole deal.

Speaker 2:

If you want him, come get him, but you're going to have to pay something that's $20 million Yep, and I'm also hearing like if he does get traded, there's some talks that he might have to move back out to the safety position, which is like if Jalen Reynolds is that old? I don't think he's lost that much, has he it feel?

Speaker 3:

like it, it feel like it. That's the thing with corners. They be great for like a good four years span and then it's like they fall off the cliff. They don't have like a natural progression. It's like great and then boom. So I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I mean, we got to 2028 to figure out what happens. I mean, a lot of these players is going to be older. A lot of them is going to be like, nah, I'm good. But you know, I'm shocked that the owners agree to it. I ain't going to lie. If I was an NFL owner, I probably would have said, nah, just call it what it is, but I'm not an NFL owner. But if I ever come up with like $10, $20 billion, I'm hollering at one of them, like, hey, let me get one of them teams, it'd be nice, it'd be nice. But that'll do it for another episode of From my Perspective.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad you guys joined us. Please like, please subscribe, please leave a comment, do me a favor, though. I got a random question just popped in my head If you had the money, like I said, $10, $20 billion which NFL team would you want to purchase? Just leave that in the comments. I don't know For me, I probably won't. I don't know. Miami would be nice. I just feel like having Miami would be nice. Doubt, that's the first team that came to my mind. But again, once again, thank you for joining us for another episode of From Our Perspective. I'm your boy, deion.

Speaker 3:

Q give me your answer. And after you give us your answer, take us home. I would fight about my own. But if I was going to buy one, oh, I'm going to say the Rams. Better yet, I'm going to say the Las Vegas Raiders. That's who? I'm going to say the Las Vegas Raiders. That would be my answer. But you already know the best. It's your boy, mr Bell. Aka, say your name before this pie Might not put you to mine. We'll catch y'all later.