From My Perspective
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From My Perspective
Hulk Hogan's Legacy, UFL's Expansion, and the WNBA's Fight for Fair Pay
The sports world mourns the passing of wrestling legend Hulk Hogan while grappling with his complex legacy as both an industry pioneer and a controversial figure.
• Separating Hulk Hogan the character from Terry Bollea the man
• Acknowledging Hogan's instrumental role in globalizing professional wrestling
• Spring football's UFL reportedly moving teams to cities without NFL competition
• Louisville emerges as potential destination for professional UFL franchise
• Chris Paul returning to the Clippers to join their veteran-heavy roster
• Projecting the top 25 athletes who will dominate sports five years from now
• WNBA players rightfully demanding more than their current 9% revenue share
• Players wearing "Pay Us What You Owe" shirts during All-Star weekend
• New $200+ million TV deal creates opportunity for increased player compensation
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Welcome, welcome, welcome back to another episode of. From my Perspective, I'm your boy Deion, coming back to you with my perspective of these sports takes. But you know, I'm not alone, I'm with the man, the myth, the legend himself. Captain Hater Q, how you doing?
Speaker 2:Man you already know the best it's your boy, Mr Bill aka. Say your name up on the spot, Might not put you to the root. What's going on, DO I don't know if I can keep really getting this gold aka out. It's gold and I've been going through some stuff lately. I might have to figure something else out, but I'm here.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you got to switch up, but I'm doing good, I'm doing good. The professional wrestling world is in mourning, though Today we did get news that Hulk Hogan unfortunately passed away. Today it actually when I got the notification. It's not funny, but it was like hold on, because we did ironically get like a Hulk Hogan died hoax not too long ago, which is kind of crazy. Apparently his health he had some bad health issues. I'm not 100% sure what that would cause us. There is some speculation of what it was something to do with heart failure or something of that nature. I'm not going to fully say what it was, but it is confirmed that he has passed away. I'm not gonna fully say what it was, but it is confirmed he has passed away.
Speaker 1:In this professional world has been, let's say, mixed feelings about the death of Hulk Hogan. I'm just gonna go ahead, give my two cents and I'm gonna toss it to you. First off, I'm really not a Hulk Hogan fan, not, I'm just I'm gonna separate. Here's how I'm gonna do. It'm going to separate Hulk Hogan and the real person, terry Bollea. So the character Hulk Hogan and Terry Bollea. I'm not a Hulk Hogan fan, just the simple fact I didn't grow up in that era, hulk Hogan. He was an 80s guy, 90s guy. When I really started wrestling he was about done. He did have the reality show in the early 2000s and in the mid-2000s. I'll talk about that a little bit. He got in some trouble and then he's been trying to start up a little catch-a-wrestling promotion just trying to make some extra money. Nothing wrong with that, but again, not a fan of him. But I do recognize without Hulk Hogan the character professional wrestling wouldn't be where it is today. He basically brought it from just being small regional promotions to globally, especially with him being the star of WWF. His match with him and Andre the Giant that match they had was iconic, still played to this day. So you got to give credit to Hulk Hogan for basically making what pro wrestling is today. Now I'm going to shift to the man Terry Bollea.
Speaker 1:I really didn't have any issues with him until I want to say it was around 2015. There was a couple issues that happened and I wouldn't say issues, just something. It was clear it happened. He got in some trouble with some. You know he got recorded while doing the deed cheating on his wife. Obviously, what's wrong with you? But he got caught.
Speaker 1:One thing he did, uh, his daughter, brooke hogan. She got she was dating a black man obviously you guys know me and q, we are black men and he pretty much. He pretty much used the n-word not in the fun way, not like he was singing the song and he used it. He used it in a term to the to degrade brooke hogan's boyfriend at the time, which was very nasty, got into some very hot water. He actually got fired for that from wwe at the time. Uh, also another thing he did his son got into a pretty horrific car accident. I believe he actually actually killed someone and hulk hogan was on record saying he didn't want his family to be reincarnated as a black person as karma, which is honestly a disgusting thing to say. He's been known as a pretty bad racist in the world.
Speaker 1:And lastly, when he had the opportunity to apologize to his peers the guys that was in wwe he didn't quite apologize. He actually didn't apologize at all. He basically said don't get caught. That was his statement. Watch. He basically said don't get caught. That was his statement. Watch out for characters and don't get caught, which was another horrific. So the man, terry, I really don't have much respect for him. I'm not going to celebrate the death of another human, but I will understand Hulk Hogan. He was a pioneer. He did a lot for pro wrestling. Yesterday, terry, I don't really have respect for him, but Hulk Hogan was a legend in professional wrestling. I'm going to leave it at that and I'm going to pass it to you. Q.
Speaker 2:So this is anybody that knows I still listen to R Kelly. I separate the music to R Kelly music. I separate the music that R Kelly does from the person that R Kelly was and the things R Kelly did. So I have to do that in this case as well. I have to separate, separate Hulk Hogan from Terry, even if I really despise Terry. Separate, separate, separate Hulk Hogan from Terry, even if I really despise Terry. Yeah, because it's one thing to say the N-word yeah, it did. But it's another thing to have the opportunity to apologize and you don't apologize and everybody's telling you like you didn't give a half-ass apology. I know we normally don't cuss at her, but you could have gave a half apology. You didn't even attempt to do that. So but you look at Hogan like I've seen Dennis Rodman post about Hogan, I've seen other African-Americans post pictures of him and Hogan, them and Hogan. So it's kind of like I guess y'all know him, so it's different. Y'all got a relationship with him, so it's different, or whatever the case may be different or whatever the case may be, hulk Hogan the wrestler, the way WWE is now, would not be there without Hulk Hogan laying the groundwork. You can't take that away from me. Without Hulk Hogan, the way wrestling is set up now it wouldn't be. He made wrestling able to cross over to mainstream. He did the movies, he did the TV shows. Hogan did all of that. Hulk Hogan crawled so the Rock, batista and John Cena can run the Miz all these people. You know what I'm saying. So Hulk Hogan, the person, I mean Hulk Hogan, the wrestler you got to celebrate because of the things that he did and the things he was able to contribute. Nwo, like you said.
Speaker 2:You younger than me, but when I got the news I was on the phone with my sister. My sister said, oh my God, hogan dad, she's getting sad. But I had to remember One. My sister don't watch wrestling no more and she don't be really into the reality TV world, so she don't know all of the other stuff that Hogan did. So I'm on the phone, I'm telling her. I'm like, well, you know he did this and you know he did that. She said, no, I didn't know that at all. So she looked at it as man. That's Hulk Hogan, the person I grew up on. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I've seen we went to a WCW event when I came to Wolverine. We've seen him. We. We went to see Goldberg but we saw him too. But it was. Hogan was an experience. Hogan, nwo, dang, nwo. I was a WCW kid. I really didn't watch, like I didn't watch WWF. I watched it later after WCW got bought out, but I was a WCW fan. I was watching right in the studio with Eddie Guerrero and Booker T and Harlem Heat, the NWO Wolfpack. I would wear them shirts to this day. It's what I grew up on. So Hogan the wrestler is vital and important. I'm just going to leave it at that. I don't want to be the dude. I see people they're saying a lot of nasty stuff on Twitter and Facebook and all that stuff because Hogan died. I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to bow down gracefully like, okay, I'm going to RIP the man, salute his, his contribution to wrestling. I can't't get the word to wrestling and after that, contributions to wrestling. After that is what it is yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, I'm not gonna celebrate to death, but I'm not. You know, what Terry has done kind of ruined his legacy in my eyes. I think it was very crazy because if he wasn't the person, or if he didn't show what he did, or if what he did didn't come to the light, today would probably be up there with, like, michael jackson's death, like he would probably be celebrated as michael, like michael jackson. But unfortunately, because of what he's done and the type of person he was, he's not. He's still going to be celebrated.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's people that are definitely separating the character and the wrestler. They really don't care. They have state childhood. That was their quote, unquote Superman Yep, that was their Superman. So I will say give condolences to the family, because obviously they thought that's a husband, that's a father, that's I don't know if he had any brothers or sisters, but that's a brother that has passed away. So condolences to his family, but Hulk Hogan has passed away at the age of 71.
Speaker 1:But I don't know what else, how else to put it. But sorry, it's tough, but, like you said, I'm going to bow out. We're going to bow out of this one. We got SummerSlam next week. I'm looking forward to SummerSlam, but let's go ahead and shift gears to football. We ain't going to talk about the NFL, not quite yet. They are in training camp. We are getting them training camp videos. One thing I will say, though, is official, official, it was already official, but Ken Ward is the starting quarterback for the Tennessee Titans, and I hope you feel good, will Evans, he will not be competing for the starting job as he is hurt, but, like I said, nfl, we'll get to it. He wasn't competing anyway. You and I both know that.
Speaker 2:He was just out there throwing the ball because he knew he was second strength. And you know what? Kudos to the Tennessee Titans, because normally when you draft a new quarterback you release the old dude. The old dude, they bring in another veteran back up. But they kept Will Levis. He's been in the system so we'd be nice and we'd keep you around. You know, you said mayonnaise and stuff. Pretty boy, you know what I'm saying. You're a pretty boy. We could put you at some little catering events and all that. You might be a self-pick.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we'll shift, Gary. We're not going to talk about NFL quiet yet Training camp is starting. The video is videos and circling, but we're going to talk about the UFL. Obviously it was a collaboration between the XFL and the USFL. They have pretty much a spring football league. So there has been sources going around that major moves is being happening. The Houston Roughnecks, the Birmingham Stylings, the Memphis Showboats and the Michigan Panthers are reportedly on the move, with some locations in mind. First one is Boise, idaho. Second one, columbus, ohio.
Speaker 1:I actually drove through Columbus not too long ago. Nice city they're doing a lot of construction, though it seems like half of the city was in construction. Florida, likely Orlando, and then Kentucky, either Louisville or Lexington. They're not going anywhere besides Louisville, lexington and Kentucky. I just wanted to point that out. But specifically me and Q, we're going to talk about a UFL team possibly coming to Louisville. Now, I don't watch a lot of spring football. It's kind of tough to watch because it's not the NFL. You watch the NFL, you watch college football, you're like man, it's different. Unless I'm just feeding for some football, I'll watch some spring UFL. But I think this is an excellent idea for Louisville to get a professional team. We've been clamoring for a WNBA team for Lord knows how long on this podcast. They still need to figure one out. We still got room for y'all. We got a couple arenas that they could go to Freedom Hall or the Yelp Center, just saying, just saying.
Speaker 2:Do we get two? Yeah?
Speaker 1:we got Freedom Hall and one of them.
Speaker 2:But I mean, freedom Hall needs to work. Let's call it space. Baby, go ahead. My bad, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:We can have that conversation after the ball. Freedom Hall needs to work.
Speaker 1:We still want the W. We still want a WNBA team. I know I do, we do, yes, we do, but it looks like it's possible to get a spring UFL team. I think it's a great idea to get a professional team here. Spring football is obviously not the glamorous thing. It's not necessarily the moneymaker, but having a professional team is nice. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:on possibly having a professional team in Louisville. When I saw Louisville slash Lexington I was like really it makes a lot. It makes sense. The reason it makes sense in every, not just for Louisville, lexington. It makes sense in Boise, it makes sense in Columbus. It makes sense in every, not just the move of Lexington. It makes sense in Boise, it makes sense in Columbus, it makes sense in Orlando. Why? Because all of these are nice-sized cities with no pro football team. And then Kentucky and Idaho they don't have no pro sports at all. So it makes sense to capitalize on those markets. The Michigan team, so Michigan showboats. From everything I was reading, Memphis Memphis showboats.
Speaker 2:I'm not Michigan, is it Panthers? Panthers, panthers, michigan Panthers. Their attendance was going up, but to lease out where they was playing, at the hub they might be, out in the forward field. They're playing at the forward field where the Detroit Lions play. It was too expensive and I think that's going to be whatever If they decide to come here. They got to be smart where they play.
Speaker 2:I don't think they should play in Cardinal Stadium. It's too big, they're not going to fill it up and it's going to look empty. Now I know the soccer team, the stadium. I know they play during the summer too. You also got the women's team as well, the racing, but I think that's a better thing. Well, you know what? Now think about it. I mean, I said something about mid-spring, but they season, I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, the UFL season is basically kind of right after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Yeah but I was thinking towards the end of the 10 weeks. I think that's when the soccer I said something, but I meant spring the soccer starts to kick in the high gear. So I was like it might be a little tough, but I think it makes more sense to play in Lynn Family Stadium than to play in the partner stadium. That's just me, and I think it would be cheaper for them to rent out as well.
Speaker 1:Much cheaper, I agree, because the Houston Roughnecks they're never going to compete with the Texans. They can't do nothing. The UFL needs to go to these markets where there's no NFL team, because that's how you're going to get the full support. I don't know if you're going to get the full support, but it would be easier to get support from the fan base, the local guys, because teams that have an NFL team from July to however their team makes it January to February, they're locked in and usually when they're done with that team they're not sick of football but they really don't care about what else that focuses on that one professional team. You give it to a team, you give it to a city that doesn't have an NFL team, they can shit.
Speaker 1:Now, obviously there's fans of NFL football teams everywhere, but someone like me who has never been to an NFL game I'm still trying to knock that off my bucket list I am likely to go to a UFL game because, one, it's springtime and two, it'll be right there. I can go there. I'm sure the tickets won't be too crazy. I will say springtime in Louisville is probably the best time to be in Louisville, considering Kentucky Derby, all the great stuff that comes along. I love it. I hope it happens. I still want that WNBA team, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the UFL, the thing about, like you said, making Louisville special is there ain't no competition. The thing they're going to have to do is, from what I'm reading, from everything I'm hearing, because I've been watching a couple couple YouTube videos of people who actually follow the UFL you don't have to promote locally, and I think that's where the UFL is struggling. You're not promoting locally, you're just saying, hey, I got a team here, y'all should come out. Nah, you gotta send some of them, but it's kind of hard because players are only under contract for so long. But you need players that's going to be there and say go to the schools.
Speaker 2:Go to the businesses downtown, hang out, hang around. Y'all actually got to do stuff in those cities to promote it. Or in some commercials and from everything I'm hearing from these other cities, they like that. They didn't do it or they did very little of it and it didn't translate. But, like I said, they said Michigan, their fans was increasing. And then they was also talking about expansion, because I remember at one point we was talking about them expanding the movie, which I still. I feel like they should still expand, just because it's more television games. It's more games. It'd be more games on television. So you know that's basically that league's gonna make money off of TV. It's a TV product. They need local fans, but it's really more so of a TV product. I think. More teams, I wouldn't be saying crazy, I would go to, like you know, 10. I would add two more, but I would be, like I said, be smart about those locations, you know, I would even think of a San Antonio. Yeah, it's Texas, they love them, but don't go to a city that already has.
Speaker 1:Stay far away from Dallas, stay far away from Houston. Hell, I don't even know if I would touch Austin.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think I would touch Austin because of the bag. What does this Austin have? If you gotta go to a city with Professor Street don't get me wrong Austin has. As far as sports, austin, I know, is a booming city, but it could be something of their own. You need to go to cities where they can make that their own, make that their identity, and from my perspective, that's what I would do. I would not go to a city that already got an NFL team and you go into nice-ass cities. Columbus is a nice-ass city, louisville is a nice-ass city, even Lexington is a nice-ass city. Boise, my side of the city. You just got to get those people. So we shall see.
Speaker 1:We shall see and I agree. One thing I think the UFL should do I mean, I feel like they was talking about it. I think they probably should kind of embrace the whole, make it feel like a minor league to the NFL, because every year there are some players that go from the UFL to play in the NFL. Every year it happens every year. It's going to keep happening every year. I feel like they need to do that because that definitely gets you a lot more players, especially out of college, those people that don't get signed to an NFL team or maybe they got cut in training camp. They go to the NFL, hone their skills, get better. You're going to get talented people that got cut and trying to make it back to the NFL. I think they need to embrace that a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Obviously, they're not going to get it's way too many teams Unless those NFL owners are willing to come out of pocket to get another team. You're not going to get 32 UFL teams Unless the owners are willing to do it. The owners are really not trying to Because they'll probably lose money, especially early in the process. So I don't see that happening. But there's 32 teams that can get it If they can get it to 16, maybe two teams share a UFL team and they can poach from that, make it easier to poach from a team instead of you know, they have the rights to those players and instead of it being more of a free agency thing, it might be a little bit harder, but I don't know. I feel like they need to embrace the minor league aspect a little bit more. They can send their refs down there to get more training. All this Just a lot of stuff they could do.
Speaker 2:Another thing the UFL could do if they don't go that route because right now all the teams that are owned by the UFL have individual owners because I think that will also help promote locally, because that individual owner will be promoting their team locally because it puts more interest in for them. In this situation, houston might be hard to sell their tickets because they only do their job, but St Louis they're doing what they got to do. I think that might help, like selling off the teams to owners instead of having to centralize their own battle in the NFL. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it ain't. I mean, it's going to cost some money, it's going to cost, you know, a couple millions, but it ain't like running the NFL team, nah, and not run like another NFL team.
Speaker 1:We'll see. I hope we get it Again. I would like a professional team in Louisville. I'll buy it. I'll buy it if the jersey's nice. If the jersey's ugly, I ain't going to buy it. But if the jersey's nice, you can count, you can go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'll go ahead and swipe my card for it. We got a little bit NBA news to talk about. You know the LA Clippers. They might as well call them the LA Unks, because they got a lot of uncles. Oh, I was talking to somebody the other day that team would be damn good if it was 2017. Damn good.
Speaker 1:So, chris Paul, he is back to LA. He's not going to LA because he's going back to the Clippers where he played at during the Lob City era. I don't know if he's going to start. He'll probably run the second unit, but hey, he's 40. He really doesn't need to start. He don't need a lot of minutes on them legs, but he's still a capable, good player. He did well in San Antonio. He actually didn't get hurt like he has been in the past, so give him credit for that. He did well. I'm pretty sure he mentored Castle and Deion Fox when he got there, but there ain't nobody to really mentor for the LA Unks, so I don't know if they're chasing a ring, but we talked about Bradley Beal going there. We said they didn't really move the needle for us, particularly because we just need to get them to the playoffs. Once they get to the playoffs, we'll see what they are. Does this move the needle anymore for you?
Speaker 2:I mean a little bit because Chris Powell is going to be motivated because, let's be real, this is his last season. He's going to the Clippers all the time. This is his last season. He went to the Clippers to be what did he say? A full-time dad. That's what he could. He could have went to Milwaukee and started. He could have went to Phoenix, more than likely, and started.
Speaker 2:He made the decision to say, hey, I'm going to go to the Clippers, I'm going to come off the bench, I'm going to kick it with my kids. In between times I get the chance to be a full-time dad. This is my retirement team. I can call the Clippers home. So it makes sense. It doesn't move it a little bit? Like you said, chris Powell played all 82 games last year. He helped lead that offense. San Antonio was decent, but when they got hurt Foxwood hurt it was only so much, it was only so much they was going to be able to do. So it moved me a little bit. Bradley Beal I was sitting with the Bradley Beal a little bit more. Bradley Beal is a little bit better than Norman Powell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:At first I was kind of like that was even. But I feel like Bradley, like I said on the set with it, bradley Beal is better than Norman Papp. Bradley Beal has injury issues If Bradley.
Speaker 1:Beal is healthy. The whole team got injury issues.
Speaker 2:True, true. You know Leonard. You know Leonard, kawhi ain't going to beat Kawhi.
Speaker 1:He's just going to play his 50 games and you just pray that he's healthy for the playoffs because he can make some noise.
Speaker 2:You hope Kawhi get hurt at the beginning of the season, like he did last year and he was able to play at the end and it was good at the playoffs compared to the year before. Play playing the beginning of the season and got hurt at the end that's what you hope for with a QI winner. Hey, get your injury stuff out now. We rest you up because we see you at the second half of the season. We see you at the holocaust.
Speaker 2:James Harden he had a little stretch where he was injured a lot, but like last year, he played. He went back to the James, where he was injured a lot, but, like last year, he played. He's smooth. He went back to the James Harden of eating up all his minutes. I think he was top five in minutes. You don't want James Harden to be top five in minutes. That's where Chris Powell comes in. That's where Bradley Beal comes in. Yeah, they could take some pressure off of James Harden. You could ease that down, james Harden. Chris Powell could go out there and run, run that second unit and you're not going to miss a step. Hell, him and Brook Lopez is going to get all types of open threes.
Speaker 1:Yep, brook Lopez running the second unit, zubox. You know he's still one of the traditional big and I wouldn't say traditional because it's not traditional now an old-school big somewhere. You know he's going to make his hay in the pan get him rebounds. But solid player, yeah, they have a solid team. They can. I was also thinking about this. I want to ask you where you think they will do If the Clippers was in the East. Do you think they would be the favorites?
Speaker 2:No, I think, I think they will be second. Now you know what you're actually, you're probably right. They probably will be the focus. I'm trying to think because they still I think people will still give Cleveland more credit yeah but can you trust Cleveland? That's what I keep going back to. Can you trust Cleveland if they the Cleverson is like who?
Speaker 1:do you trust Cleveland? That's what I keep. Going back to the Clippers and the East who do you trust? It's not that I don't trust the Clippers, it's I'm worried if they'll be healthy, because if they're healthy during the playoffs in the East, I think they will easily. I won't say easily. I think they could win the East Conference in the West. They're going to be fighting. They'll be getting anywhere between the 6th and 4th seed. They could win the Easter Conference In the West. They're going to be fighting. They'll be getting anywhere between the 6th and 4th seed. That's how I see it. That's where they were last year. They'll get 6th, 5th or 4th somewhere around there. They'll probably get a tough matchup. I mean, the whole West is going to be a tough matchup, whatever the hell that sets up. They could come out the West, but I wouldn't bet on it because the West is so deep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why I wanted to. That's why I thought about New York. But then I was like, well, they find their coach. So that can also be about for me in real time. If they had a kept Tom Thibodeau and there's no disrespect to Mike Brown, we got to see what it is If they had a kept time tip of, to me the New Yorks would be, the Knicks would be walking to the championship I mean, well, my championship Walking to the finals. I was talking to a New York Knicks fan last week. I said y'all did the most New York Knicks thing ever. Y'all was right there and then y'all found out Coach didn't have a plan.
Speaker 1:And then y'all found your coach that didn't have a plan and then interviewed everybody else's coach and still got told no. And finally got the coach Me and Q said it, it was Mike Balloon and Mike Brown. Y'all waited until after the draft, after free agent had already started, to finally hit him up.
Speaker 2:Summer League started the next day. Then y'all signed Mike Brown. What are we doing? That's what I told him. I said, yeah, I did the most New York Knicks thing ever. Y'all should have been walking to the finals. Y'all would have been walking to the finals because again I would keep saying it I don't trust Cleveland. I love Donovan Mitchell, but I don't really trust them dudes. So, whatever the raising may be maybe because they lost on my team and everybody thought they was so much better than my team I mean, last time I checked it was 4-1. Whatever, you know what I mean. So I think you're right. I think they probably will be the better ones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to be there, but they are in the gauntlet of the West instead. So let's see if the LA Oaks could make some noise. But we ain't going to be checking for y'all until the playoffs. Just get out to the playoffs and then that's when we'll check for y'all. Alright, so the main we're going to the main event of the day show. Q came up with this great idea where we give our list of the top 25 players that we think will be in five years. I gave my list, q gave his list, some other people gave their list, combined them. Then we will go through the list. We know we got to give y'all a little cliffhanger. We're only going through 25 to 11 a day. Y'all going to have to wait for the top 10. That's correct.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you how I calculate the distance. So first shout out to everybody that did the list Of course me. And you Shout out to Josh, you know, my Tennessee Titans brother, will, mr Breakglass, himself, jordan and then shout out, and then Shail. Shout out to Shail, I feel like I'm missing somebody. Nah, I think that's it. So all these people, we all did a list. I had them.
Speaker 2:Same thing your top 25 in five years. Who's the most impactful? And I said they was like what's the most impactful? I said it could be championships, it could be stats, it could be a combination of everything. Who do you think is going to be the most impactful over the next five years? In that fifth year, who do you think would be in the top? I calculated and the lowest scores was at the top. So it was only four people who was on, or five people. Sorry, it was only four people or five people. It was only five people. That was on everybody's list. So of course those people are the top five. These people towards the bottom, they was only on. Well, actually the bottom person was only on two people's list and then the rest of them. I'll let y'all know that some of them was only on three people's list, so we'll start with number 25, only on two people's list. So we'll start with number 25, only on two people's list Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2:Damn Number 24.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I already go to five.
Speaker 2:Number 24. You know this was near and dear to me. He was on three people's list Tyrese Halliburton, number 23,. Number 22 and number 23,. We go to the WNBA. He was on three people's list Tyrese Halliburton, number 22 and number 23,. We go to the WNBA. Number 23, paige Buckets, which is crazy. Everybody put Buckets.
Speaker 1:That's what everybody put, nobody put her real name, because that's what she gets Buckets.
Speaker 2:So 23 is Paige Buckets, 22 is Angel Reese and 21 is Justin Jackson. Now there was a tie for 20 and 21. So I hollered at my boy, jay. He was supposed to do a list but it took him forever. So I said, look, you just beat the tiebreaker. He put this. He put 20 above 21. So what do you think about those five that I just listed?
Speaker 1:So Jamar Chase was 25. I originally I did not put him on my list, but I will say I originally had him on my list but I took him out in place of another receiver. I don't know if that other receiver is on the list, but it was a college receiver that I took him out in place of another receiver. I don't know if that other receiver is on the list, but it was a college receiver that I took him out for. Just saying so I put Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 1:Looking for the future. Since Jeremiah apparently he didn't make the list, I'm going to say, since he didn't make it, I put him. I did put Chase, I did put Jefferson, but I did take them out. I put him. I did put Chase, I did put Jefferson, but I did take them out. I was like I was trying to look in the future. You never know. So that was my thing. I did have Paige Buckets. I also put Paige Buckets, but my 21-25 was a little bit different. Only thing I had similar was Paige Buckets. But I don't disagree. Who was that? Angel Reese and who's the other WMA player? It was Angel Reese and Paige Buckets. I did not have Angel Reese on Mons. I'm just going to say that was a misforesight. On Mons there was a lot of people I was thinking about. I missed out on Angel Reese. That's on me.
Speaker 2:Like I said, Jermon Chase is only on two people's list. What's the college driver's name you just said?
Speaker 1:Jermon Smith from Ohio State.
Speaker 2:He was on two people's list, but it's.
Speaker 1:He must have been low on both people's lists.
Speaker 2:He was low on both of y'all's lists. I'm going to get an honorable mention once we get to 11. All right, 20, juju Watkins. 19, carlos Alcaraz. 18, josh Allen. Then it was another time for 17 and 16. 17, tam Moore 16, lamar Jackson All right, now I'm going to be honest here. I ain't have Cam Ward on my list that's crazy. Cam Ward did not.
Speaker 1:He did not make my list now, was it something you just didn't think about, or he was like I don't know if he's going to be like that in five years nah, I thought about him, he just didn't make it.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's I don't want to jinx him because that is my team, but Cam Cam War, cam War didn't make my list.
Speaker 1:But you know me, I did show some homer because I had Tyrese on my list yep, yep, I got you in terms of I know Juju was on it, I had her in my top 10, I know she's coming off an ACL injury. I did have her ahead of, I'm assuming, the other woman that's going to be on this list for the WNBA. I had her hired, I had her hired. I just simply think Juju is a better player than Kaylin. Kaylin is amazing. I think Kaylin is more of a. Her game is more replicated to Steph Curry Juju. She a bucket getter. You know Paige Buckets, that's her. Curry Juju, she's a bucket getter. You know Paige Buckets, that's her name. Juju's a bucket getter. She's going to take you to the hole. She's going to hit you from 30, 35 feet, hit you from the midrange. Kaylin, she's a three-point shooter and because she's such a dominant shooter, it spreads the floor, opens it up, the passer lands for her and she's an excellent passer.
Speaker 2:So spreads the floor, opens it up the passer lands forward and she's an excellent passer, so I just thought Gigi was better. Yeah, okay, carlos. I want to say that Carlos Aguarez because he's a tennis player and he made it through people's lists he wasn't on my list. I think he's going to be something special. I think he's going to compete with the Roger Federer's and the Rafael Nadal's. I think he's going to be something special. I think, skinner, he's on my list, but he didn't make it. I think them two are going to be competing with each other for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1:Missed foresight on me. I didn't have any tennis players on my list as a whole. Apologize, tennis Outside of Serena Venus, roger Federer and the other guy man.
Speaker 2:Rafael Nadal.
Speaker 1:Rafael Nadal and I don't know much about this. Apologize. You said Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson was on this portion.
Speaker 2:Yes, Josh Allen. It was three quarterbacks in a row Lamar Jackson at 16, Cal Ward at 17,. 18 was Josh Allen.
Speaker 1:I did have both of them. I had them a lot higher on my list. Now, in terms, I can understand why they're this low, because they're a play style, especially Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson a little bit less so, because he's not trying to get touched as much Josh Allen, he's trying to run through your face. I can see them. Their career is not lasting as long as they probably should, but I did have them up there. I did have two quarterbacks ahead of them. I'm assuming they're on that list. That play style is a lot different than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. They'll be able to play more well in their 30s than Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, so I'm not surprised that those guys are on the list.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is where we get into the people who made you know they was on four people's list. So this is where we get into that. Actually, we started with Cal Ward and Lamar Jackson, now we get into Aaron Rodgers. I mean Aaron Rodgers, number 15. Number 15, aaron Judge Okay. Number 14, scotty Shepard, 13,. Luka Doncic, 12, joe Burrow and 11,. Shout out to Cincinnati, ella. What does that mean? Do you want to? Luka Doncic? 12, joe Burrow and 11. Shout out to Cincinnati. What does that mean? What?
Speaker 1:do you want to say his?
Speaker 2:name Joe Burrow? No, no.
Speaker 1:Darius oh, Ellie Dela Cruz.
Speaker 2:Ellie Dela Cruz is at 11. Joe Burrow is at 12., luka Doncic is at 13. Scottie Sheffler is at 14. And Aaron Judge is at 15.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Now Scottie Shuffler. I know it's golf. But, so I understand why he wasn't on as many people's list, but Scottie Shuffler is nice. He's going to be nice.
Speaker 1:I apologize. What happened to you when you was in Louisville, scottie, I apologize. Hopefully I just got to do it since we talked, I apologize. What happened to you when you was in Louisville, scotty, I apologize. Hopefully I just got to do it since we talked, I apologize. Hopefully it don't happen again. Please come back Please.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, now, all these people was on my list, but Aaron Judge. I did not have Aaron Judge on my list. I looked at Aaron Judge and I was like Burr's 27, going on 28. I think he's going to be good, but how good is he going to be? I know he's having like damn near MVP season again this year. I get it, but at what point is he the client? I don't think the client is going to happen no time soon, but I'm just like I don't think the decline is going to happen no time soon, but I'm just like I don't know if he's going to be top 25 in the next five. He might. If I had to go through top 30, he would have been on the list, but 25 in the next five. I didn't have to earn drugs back.
Speaker 1:That's just me. I can see why I understand my thought process is he's a baseball player, barry Bonds. He was what? 42 when he was still.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Barry Bonds has a past.
Speaker 1:That's a different Barry. You're right, that's a different man. Yeah, happy birthday, barry Bonds. I believe his birthday is today, if I'm not mistaken. You should be in the Hall of Fame, but you're not. Makes the Hall of Fame irrelevant from my perspective.
Speaker 2:Anybody that is associated with that stuff. They're not going to let you Now Barry Bonds. He did have a Hall of Fame career. Barry Bonds was going to get in the Hall of Fame before everybody expected that he was on that stuff. So if he had to continue with not being on that stuff, he would be in the Hall of Fame. He would have been already in the Hall of Fame. He should be.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it is officially Barry Bonds' birthday. I just checked it out. But yeah, happy birthday Barry Bonds. But that's kind of what I was thinking. Like Aaron Judge, he could be still dominant, like Barry Bonds was. That was my thought process, so that's why I stuck with him. Ellie Dela Cruz he's just an electric player. He's a shortstop for the Cincinnati Reds. He'd be robbing them bases like it's nothing. That's what he does. Obviously, the rules are a little bit different. He ain't a Ricky Henderson, ain't nobody going to be Ricky. I'm sorry, but he's up there. Also. He's basically the face of the Cincinnati Reds right now. He's getting up there. He's going to be another one of them players where, when you see the contract, you look at your kid. If you got one, you go grab you a baseball in the back. Let's go ahead and get this going. He's going to be another one of them to get that big contract.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right. You're right, he's going to get paid. Joe Burrow? I had Joe Burrow a lot lower. I had Joe Burrow in the 20s and it's not because not you know, I hate Cincinnati. I hate Cincinnati and you know. It just is what it is.
Speaker 2:if you listen to the five, you know I hate yeah but it's not because I hate them, it's because their defense I don't think it's going to be good no time soon. So he ain't going. He going to put. He going to put up a bunch of numbers, joe Burrow going to put up a bunch of stats, but are those empty calorie stats? Because it's a fact, he can't score 50, 60 points every week, dog, but he just can't. So that's why I had Joe Burrow lower, because it's a fact. I think he's going to put up the numbers, but are they going to be impacted Like a Drew Brees? Drew Brees put up a bunch of numbers, he only got one ring.
Speaker 1:When you're in the NFL, all you need is one ring Honestly. That's cool and all you need multiple if you're trying to be on the Tom Brady level we all say Tom, aaron Rodgers is probably.
Speaker 2:When you look at a quarterback play, aaron Rodgers is probably the prototype. Well, you know that other dude, the player can't sit them. Two dudes, they like the. You think of quarterback, that's what you think of. They can move, they can sling it, they can snitch their arm, they can do it all. But everybody says Tom Brady's the GOAT because he has seven of them.
Speaker 1:I like that Tom Brady. He's the GOAT. Because of the rings I don't think he's the best quarterback to ever play in the NFL. He I don't know technically if he's top five. Talent-wise I don't think he's top five. I mean, look, he was drafted in the sixth round. Obviously, even the NFL didn't consider him that talented. But Patrick Patrick, aaron, dan Marino, hell, even Joe Montana, joe got four of them. I think they beat Tom Brady in terms of talent. But Tom Brady, he got that it factor and that it factor got him seven. That's the difference maker.
Speaker 2:Before we get out of here, I'm going to give you three honorable mentions. These are the next three. These would have been 26, 27, and 28. Cj Stroud, juan Soto and Jaden Diggins those three, like I said, those are honorable mentions. They only made it on two people's lists.
Speaker 1:More quarterbacks. Cesar Shroud he did have a down year last year. I expect him to have a better year. Juan Soto he just got paid. If you're listening, let me hold a dollar please, because you ain't going to miss it Not a dollar. And Jaden Daniels had an excellent rookie year. Obviously, we'll probably talk about it later on in the coming weeks when we start giving out predictions of what's going to happen in the NFL. I'm predicting a rookie slump for him. I mean a sophomore slump. You have an excellent leader like that. A sophomore slump is probably coming. I do not disagree with those at all.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. That's 11 through 25. You got top 10 in a couple weeks.
Speaker 1:Top 10 coming in a couple weeks, all right, so hope you guys like it. Please give us y'all thoughts. Y'all know y'all probably going to be mad and wondering where is this player, where is that player? We still got 10 more to go. So a player. You was probably expecting he probably in the top 10. You can yell at us after we give the top 10 and wondering why such and such is not on the list or such and such is on the list. Do that then. But we got one more thing until we got to talk about. We know we got to talk. We was talking about the WNBA again. We were like a WNBA team in Louisville. We keep saying it till we get one, if we ever get one.
Speaker 1:But the WNBA. They had their All-Star break last weekend and they made some headlines. You know they was wearing shirts called what was it? Pay Us what you Owe. They was doing that.
Speaker 1:First thing that came to my mind was Riley Freeman from the Boondocks with the Santa Claus episode, pay Us what you Owe. There was some. You know you get on social media a little bit. There was some people joking like pay them what you owe. Y'all lost such and such amount of money. Y'all owe them money. Y'all don't make no money. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:Listen, the WNBA is in a boom period, quote unquote similar to when Magic and Bird came to the league. The NBA wasn't making money. Early on in their days they was losing money, but you know who was still getting paid them players. There is a new TV revenue. Early on in their days they was losing money, but you know who's still getting paid them players. There is a new TV revenue kicking in next season, if I'm not mistaken. A new TV revenue kicks in. They will be turning a profit, just saying, but that's not the real issue. Even if the WNBA wasn't turning a profit, the players still need to get paid more. Pretty much. Every other league is getting about 50% of the shared revenue. The WNBA is only getting nine, which is a ridiculously low amount. Now, with this new TV deal, I forgot what it is off the top of my head. I want to say it's what?
Speaker 2:$200 million $200 million, a little bit more, a little bit more than $200 million.
Speaker 1:Like I said, they're going to be turning the profit. Just with the TV revenue, that's not counting the ticket sales, that's not counting the merchandise sales. Just from the TV revenue they're going to be making a profit. And the WNBA players? They just want a bigger percentage of the pie. 9% is not enough, even though they're getting a bigger share, getting a bigger revenue. 9% is not enough. Now I'm pretty sure that they're not asking for 50%, they want at least 20 or 25. So that was what the big thing. I don't understand. No, you know, there's still people out there that sees the WNBA as less than sure. It is a little less than an NBA. It's not the NBA. It may never be on the NBA level, not saying that. But during the boom period there's still.
Speaker 1:There is a growing interest in the WNBA, mostly because of that woman in Indiana. Hopefully she gets healthy and can get back on the court, but there's a growing interest. And there's more great players just coming down the pipeline. We talked about Juju not too long ago. Paige Buckets she is. She's just in her rookie year. Izzy Fuzz from UConn she's coming down the pipeline. There's more great players coming. They going to get paid more People that don't like it don't want these women to get paid more. Whether you like it or not, they going to get paid more because they deserved it and they earned it. Q.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why people say that somebody's trying to get paid more at their job. Don't all of us want to get paid more at our job?
Speaker 1:I sure as hell do.
Speaker 2:I don't understand the fact of why y'all mad. They just want to. Everybody want to get paid more. Let's just forget everything else. So what you think about women, what you think about women's sports, what you think about the current money they got, forget all of that. Let's go to the root. Everybody want to get paid more Yep.
Speaker 2:Why you hating Because somebody wants to get paid more? Don't you want to get paid more? No, I want to get paid more To me. That's what it boils down to why you mad at somebody that's going to get paid more To me. That's what it boils down to why you mad at somebody that's going to get paid more. That being said, let's talk about the numbers. There was $40 to $50 million in the whole last year. That wasn't profitable, okay, cool. The new TV contract $200 million? All right, let's say that's an extra $100 million. We won't even go to the $150 million. We'll say that's an extra $100 million. We won't even go to the $150 million. Let's say that's an extra $100 million. Wouldn't you want a slice of that additional $100 million that just came up? They did what they were supposed to do. They waited until the TV contract was negotiated. Okay, cool, now that's done. We know what y'all working with now, because we're wildly reported how much of that is going to be ours 9% ain't enough.
Speaker 2:Don't come to us with a 9%. No, we're not doing that, don't come to me. I don't know what you know, because they had a conversation over the All-Star weekend and all of the players felt just slipped. They felt like they were slapped in the face. So, whatever it is that y'all offer, y'all might want to figure that out or double it. And the reason I say that is WNBA. Like Dion just said y'all in a boom. Right now, a work stoppage kills y'all. Boom. And I don't know. Candace Parker said playing in the WNBA was what she did for fun when she went overseas to play. That was work. That's where she made her real money at overseas WNBA. It's time you don't want your players to keep going overseas to play.
Speaker 1:And that's I'm sorry to cut you off. That's the one thing about a work stoppage that would hurt the WNBA, because they can easily go overseas. There's a lot of teams over there that's willing to give them money for them to come overseas. It's not necessarily. You can't necessarily do that in the NFL. If they do a work stoppage they ain't really got much to go NBA. The money that they would be offered is nothing compared with the money they got. If they do a work stoppage for the WNBA, they're going straight overseas because they'll make just as much, if not more, go overseas. Now some of them might not want to go overseas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're there, but I can do a work stoppage and go overseas and make some money, which I will. Yeah, these women have another option. Wish I had another option. You ain't got nothing. You're not going to get another Kevin Clark. You're not going to get another Angel Wilson. You're not going to get another Angel Wilson. There's nobody to replace these women. She's paying these women.
Speaker 1:I don't feel like they're asking for a lot. Yeah, I don't feel like they're asking for a lot. I don't know what they're asking for, like. I said, every other league is 50% of the share revenue. Should they get 50%? Sure, if I'm a WMA player, I want at least 25. I probably would have asked for about 30, 40, assuming that they would bring it down to 25. But if they felt disrespected it had to be something less than like 15.
Speaker 2:I was going to say it had to be like 15 or something. Yeah, yes, that's a fan, that's not a fan. No, I don't think these women are asking to be getting. I don't, realistically. I don't think they're asking to get the NBA contract. They're not asking to get NBA contracts. But Caleb Lark makes $75,000 for sure.
Speaker 1:Those people where we work at make more than them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my before taxes was $75,000. I ain't doing what Kayla Clark doing. You know what I mean, like my before taxes. You know I get it Before taxes, but you get the point I'm making. My before taxes Was $75,000. Of course Kayla Clark ain't doing that. I ain't. Kayla Clark ain't doing what I'm doing. She's filling up arenas Multiple, cause everywhere she go's filling up arenas Multiple, because everywhere she go, she filling up arenas.
Speaker 1:This team they got to move their stadium to a bigger move, their games to a bigger arena when she shows up.
Speaker 2:Just come on, and it ain't just her. People go pay tickets to go see Angel Wilson. People pay money to go see Angel Reese. Dang Ladies, nothing, be Chicago Balling at her.
Speaker 1:MVP candidate.
Speaker 2:Man, it was killing in that all-star game. You know it wasn't no defense. I don't know why people don't play defense in all-star games, Like even get to the fourth quarter and play defense or something. That's a whole other conversation. We ain't gonna talk about that. Yeah, the world may never know. Pay these women. I, if I remember. Yeah, the world may never know. Pay these women. I think it's simple. And the people that's hating on these women wanting to get paid, why are you worried about their pockets? What are we talking about? I don't. You know the internet, Never mind Go ahead.
Speaker 1:I got one more thing about the WNBA before we get out of here, nike, I don't know if you saw it. They had a little promotional thing during the All-Star weekend Gorilla she performed in the All-Star game. They had posters with Gorilla, one of her big songs, let Her Cook. I don't think they really thought that through when putting the WNBA players next to the phrase let her cook Doesn't really go very well. I understand Gorilla. She has a hot song, that's a song, but somebody in that room probably should have been like don't think that should be what we put next to these women, considering how some people see women Might need to. You know, go back to the. You know the just do it phrase, just saying but wanted to point that out. Wasn't a great look, I understood Really. I like the song.
Speaker 2:We get it, we get it, we get it, we also get the song. Yeah, we also get the song, we also get it. You know what's going on now in pop culture, but I feel you, I didn't see this.
Speaker 1:I don't think that was very smart on. Whoever decided to do that May have should have just put the just do it phrase on there. Probably would have worked a little bit better. You wouldn't have got that side out. But I just wanted to point that out before we get out of here. Q, you got anything. You want to say no, so Q don't got nothing to hate on today. Next week we got SummerSlam. You excited for it. The card is starting to shape up pretty well. You know. Two nights First, two nights SummerSlam.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited, something's going to be dope.
Speaker 1:I'm really excited to get into it. Thanks again for joining us for another episode of From my Perspective. I'm your boy, deion. Please like, please subscribe, please leave a comment. Don't talk about anything. Talk about our 25 to 11 list. Who you think should be in the top 10? Let us know. We still got merch Links in the bio. Oh, what's coming up? Labor Day is coming up. Get you something for Labor Day, man. You need something while you're rocking that grill. You need something while you pull aside Just saying, hey, there's some nice stuff on there. Just saying, but again, I'm your boy, deion Q. Take us home.
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